"Independent Scheme Assurance Panel" report on ID cards published.
Mark Lomas
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Mon, 12 May 2008 09:02:55 +0100
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2008/5/12 PeteM <otcbn@callnetuk.com>:
> Ian Batten wrote on 11-05-08 10:11:
>
> >
> > How do you cope with differing `spent
>
> > convictions' rules? For example, we now know that Austria regards rape
> > convictions more than ten years previously as spent: how would that play for
> > an CRB check in the UK, enhanced or not?
> >
>
>
> I do not know about others, but the UK system was designed to deal with
> spent convictions by treating them the same as any other. It returns all
> convictions (or convictions and suspicions in the case of an enhanced check)
> no matter how old they are, and leaves it to the applying organisation to
> apply ROOA.
>
> It is possible that this has been or is being changed, but it was
> certainly true a year or so ago, and I suspect it still is.
>
This depends upon the organisation requesting the records.
Ian is correct to suggest that records are retained after they are spent.
ACPO
guidelines suggest for up to ten years.
However, when conducting a background check for a job, unless the hiring
organisation
is 'exempt' it will not see spent convictions. Further, the applicant is
entitled to lie
about spent convictions and protected from unfair dismissal because of that
lie.
Mark
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/5/12 PeteM <<a href="mailto:otcbn@callnetuk.com">otcbn@callnetuk.com</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Ian Batten wrote on 11-05-08 10:11:<br>
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How do you cope with differing `spent<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
convictions' rules? For example, we now know that Austria regards rape convictions more than ten years previously as spent: how would that play for an CRB check in the UK, enhanced or not?<br>
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I do not know about others, but the UK system was designed to deal with spent convictions by treating them the same as any other. It returns all convictions (or convictions and suspicions in the case of an enhanced check) no matter how old they are, and leaves it to the applying organisation to apply ROOA.<br>
<br>
It is possible that this has been or is being changed, but it was certainly true a year or so ago, and I suspect it still is.<br></blockquote></div><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">This depends upon the organisation requesting the records.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Ian is correct to suggest that records are retained after they are spent. ACPO</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">guidelines suggest for up to ten years.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">However, when conducting a background check for a job, unless the hiring organisation</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">is 'exempt' it will not see spent convictions. Further, the applicant is entitled to lie</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">about spent convictions and protected from unfair dismissal because of that lie.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"> Mark</span></div>
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