BT claim Privacy International back Phorm

[Roland Perry]

In article 
<6ED388AA006C454BA35B0098396B9BFB0364D6F7@uxsrvr20.atlas.ukerna.ac.uk>, 
Andrew Cormack <Andrew.Cormack@ja.net> writes
>And the BT press office should read "Eats, Shoots and Leaves". I'm sure
>they didn't mean to say that they only have one customer, unless the
>fuss has been more effective than we know ;-)

Not to mention the grocerish URL's and ISP's.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk
>> [mailto:ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Batten
>> Sent: 19 March 2008 09:06
>> To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk
>> Subject: BT claim Privacy International back Phorm
>>
>> Simon D really should make things clearer to his clients, I suggest.
>>
>> http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2612&start=
>> 255&tstart=0
>>
>> George Boyce
>> <http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/profile.jspa?userID=107304>
>>
>>
>> Posts: 4
>> Registered: 12/8/03
>>      Re: BT Webwise technical trials to begin from mid-March
>> 2008 [Q&A thread]
>> Posted: Mar 18, 2008 11:00 PM   in response to: Peter N
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>> I expect this to be moderated very quickly, but here goes anyway.
>>
>> Peter N wrote:
>> Details are starting to emerge proving that 82/20 Thinking -
>> after being paid by Phorm to scruitinise their privacy and
>> security claims - did not give their approval despite
>> BT/Phorm's attempts to imply that all was well. Details here
>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7303426.stm>  courtesy
>> of the BBC News website.
>>
>> BT/Phorm previously tried to claim that they had received
>> positive reports from Privacy International. They later
>> backtracked on this when it was proven that the two people
>> conducting the enquiry, although members of PI, where
>> actually doing so in their capacity as directors of 80/20
>> Thinking - private organisation who were paid to produce the report.
>>
>> Interestingly enough, Peter, they are still claiming that
>> Privacy International HAVE backed them. Here is a quote from
>> a reply I received today from Ben Verwaayen's office to a
>> complaint I made about this whole mess.
>>
>> "Clearly our customer's privacy is extremely important to us.
>> Information on users browsing is completely anonymous, it
>> doesn't gather personally identifiable information, doesn't
>> store URL's, IP addresses or retain browsing histories and
>> the raw data used is deleted in real time - by the time the
>> page loads. Webwise does not scan webmail pages so your
>> emails on Gmail, Yahoo mail or Hotmail are not scanned.
>> Secure pages like your banking websites and web forms like
>> any online registration or sign-up forms are not scanned. No
>> personal information often contained in form fields is
>> therefore ever captured by the system. No data is passed
>> outside of BT's network. Webwise privacy standards have been
>> verified by external auditor Ernst & Young, Privacy
>> International has also carried out a Privacy Impact
>> Assessment. Of course BT, TalkTalk and Virgin Media have all
>> completed appropriate due diligence on Phorm, we also
>> understand that other ISP's both in and outside of the UK are
>> currently talking to them."
>>
>> While I'm here, I should also mention what his office said
>> about the cookies being planted on my PC at the start of
>> every session, (see here:
>> http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/message.jspa?messageID=14442
>> #14442 and
>> here:http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/message.jspa?messageID=
>> 14478#14478).
>>
>> "Let me begin by first of all confirming that the service is
>> not currently live so any cookies being dropped on to your
>> computer haveabsolutely nothing to do with this."
>>
>> This gets me wondering... if it's not Webwise putting the
>> cookies there at the start of every browsing session, who is
>> responsible for these cookies in the pic below?
>>
>> http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=webwisecrapbd5.jpg
>>
>> I will be replying to Mr Verwaayen's representative asking
>> for clarification of the Privacy International claim and
>> asking who then they think is putting the cookies there, if
>> it's not them. In the meantime, anyone with any thoughts on this one?
>>
>> G.
>>
>> Edited by: George Boyce on Mar 18, 2008 11:01 PM
>>
>>
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Roland Perry