Targeted junkmail "from" your GP?

Gerard Freriks ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:24:05 +0200


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Correct me when I'm wrong.

- There are the National Data Registrars executing National Data  
protection Laws derived from the European Privacy Directive
- There is the European article 29 committee that expressed recently  
its views on the patient data in EHR's.

So what can the 'medical mob' do?
When  these official bodies do their work properly they have to work  
within the law, don't they?
Or am I too naive?

In addition.
Other parts of the 'medical mob' are in the process to produce ISO/ 
tc215 documents (standards in the end) that deal with Archiving and  
Pseudonymisation.
And then there is the European (and soon ISO) EN 13606 EHR standard.
In part 4 there is a way to specify the Patient Mandate for  
information stored in EHR's.
This Patient Mandate is conformant to the CEN/ISO/tc215 22600 standard  
for Privacy Management and Access Control.
European experts play important roles in CEN and ISO.

The standards are there.
The legal framework is there.
What is missing?

Awareness with the other 'medical mob', industry and politicians?

Gerard


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Gerard Freriks, MD
Huigsloterdijk 378
2158 LR Buitenkaag
The Netherlands

T: +31 252544896
M: +31 620347088
E:     gfrer@luna.nl


Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little  
temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov  
1755





On Jun 30, 2008, at 3:22 PM, David Hansen wrote:

> If this mob was to behave in a respectable way,
> particularly by asking people rather than patronising them, they would
> get a lot further.


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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Correct me when I'm =
wrong.<div><br></div><div>- There are the National Data Registrars =
executing National Data protection Laws derived from the European =
Privacy Directive</div><div>- There is the European article 29 committee =
that expressed recently its views on the patient data in =
EHR's.</div><div><br></div><div>So what can the 'medical mob' =
do?</div><div>When &nbsp;these official bodies do their work properly =
they have to work within the law, don't they?</div><div>Or am I too =
naive?</div><div><br></div><div>In addition.</div><div>Other parts of =
the 'medical mob' are in the process to produce ISO/tc215 documents =
(standards in the end) that deal with Archiving and =
Pseudonymisation.</div><div>And then there is the European (and soon =
ISO) EN 13606 EHR standard.</div><div>In part 4 there is a way to =
specify the Patient Mandate for information stored in =
EHR's.</div><div>This Patient Mandate is conformant to the CEN/ISO/tc215 =
22600 standard for Privacy Management and Access =
Control.</div><div>European experts play important roles in CEN and =
ISO.</div><div><br></div><div>The standards are there.</div><div>The =
legal framework is there.</div><div>What is =
missing?</div><div><br></div><div>Awareness with the other 'medical =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; ">If this mob was to behave in a =
respectable way,<span =
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people rather than patronising them, they would<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>get a lot =
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