David Davis' Resignation and fight over civil liberty

Ian Mason ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:46:16 +0100


On 13 Jun 2008, at 16:10, Roland Perry wrote:

> In article <86537DBE-7CDD-4C25- 
> B44E-55EE285F6693@sourcetagged.ian.co.uk>, Ian Mason  
> <ukcrypto@sourcetagged.ian.co.uk> writes
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2008, at 14:38, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>  What I struggle to understand is why there needs to be a hard  
>>> deadline to "put up or shut up".
>>
>> Why you struggle to understand is that you've never been in this  
>> position.
>
> That's a problem that many people share when discussing public  
> policy in a vacuum :(
>
>> Try to imagine having the whole apparatus of state hanging  over  
>> your head. Possibly you can be hauled off to be interrogated at  a  
>> moments notice, then possibly detained incommunicado for a long   
>> time. That's a lot of stress and you would, quite naturally, want  
>> it  to go away. Moreover, it's precisely that kind of stress that  
>> leads  people to make up confessions just to reach a definite ending.
>
> But I don't really follow that part. If they let you out because  
> some 28|42 day dealine expires and they haven't yet unearthed the  
> proof they think is lurking there, you aren't in any sense off the  
> hook (unless you have a plan to leave the country). Whether you  
> believe yourself to be innocent (and unlucky so far) or guilty (but  
> lucky so far) there's still the prospect of re-arrest at any time.
>

I think there's a big difference between being a free man with a  
threat of possible incarceration and an incarcerated man. There  
certainly would be for me.