BT 2006 trials of Phorm

steve hayes ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:13:04 +0100


I take the view that although I have nothing to hide, I certainly do not
personally trust every man and his dog with information about myself. 

Do I agree with privacy - Yes
Do I trust certain people / companies with my credit card details over the
telephone when I order products with my credit card - Yes
Do I trust some websites online with my credit card details = Yes
Do I trust all websites online with my credit card details - No
Do I trust all websites online with an email address of mine - No
Will I ever trust Phorm with my browsing details - No
Would I trust Phorm with any of my data collected during the 2006 trials -
No
Have I ever had to fix by-products of Phorm / 121Media on PC's of friends
and acquaintances that were installed without their knowing consent and
subsequently prevented the standard working of that PC - Yes
Would I personally trust a company with reported past behaviour, some I have
experienced, as described in the following link - No.

The Link :
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Spyware-Rootkit-Maker-Stops-Distribution/

Phorm may be trustable for all I truly know and care. Even if the next
Phorm/ Webwise system in place was somehow legal, I will never personally
trust them because of my perception of their questionable past. The saying
containing the line leopards and spots will always spring to the forefront
of my mind.

Because of this I will unfortunately gut react to all known Phorm/Websise/BT
trials with a bad taste in my mouth. 

My mind is made up, legal or illegal, I do not want Phorm/Webwise. 

sh

-----Original Message-----
From: ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk
[mailto:ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk] On Behalf Of Wendy M.
Grossman
Sent: 06 June 2008 15:18
To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: BT 2006 trials of Phorm

Paul Vigay wrote:

> I must admit that I'm a bit more blunt and 'go for the shock factor' when
> it comes to answering the "If you have nothing to hide...." question,
> simply replying with, "try telling that to a holocaust survivor" - which
> usually stops the conversation!

Yes, but that's what's wrong with it. You don't want to end the 
conversation entirely - Godwin's Law - with a scenario they think is 
unlikely to happen to *them*. You want to get across things that are 
real and person to their own lives.

wg

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