Data Sharing Review

Gerard Freriks ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:06:03 +0200 

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The next url will lead to a downloadable part 4 of the European EHR  
standard, the patient mandate.

Gerard


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Gerard Freriks, MD
Huigsloterdijk 378
2158 LR Buitenkaag
The Netherlands

T: +31 252544896
M: +31 620347088
E:     gfrer@luna.nl


Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little  
temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov  
1755





On 17, Jul, 2008, at 19:03 , Gerard Freriks wrote:

> Have you studied the European EHR-standard that is to become an ISO  
> standard soon.
>
> Part 4 of this standard deals with the Patient Mandate.
> Two matrices in this standard deal with types of information and  
> types of clinicians.
> See EN13606-4
> http://tinyurl.com/5ccnvv
>
> It is not the perfect system, but the best we can think-off now.
>
> Gerard
>
>
> -- <private> --
> Gerard Freriks, MD
> Huigsloterdijk 378
> 2158 LR Buitenkaag
> The Netherlands
>
> T: +31 252544896
> M: +31 620347088
> E:     gfrer@luna.nl
>
>
> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little  
> temporary
> Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov  
> 1755
>
>
>
>
>
> On 17, Jul, 2008, at 16:41 , Ross Anderson wrote:
>
>>> Using a well designed RBAC system based on use of secure  
>>> Cryptographic
>>
>> RBAC isn't a magic bullet any more than cryptography is. In fact the
>> currently deployed DCR systems use it, and it causes severe problems.
>


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soon.<div><br></div><div>Part 4 of this standard deals with the Patient =
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Buitenkaag</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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min-height: 12px; ; font-family: Monaco; font-size: 9px; "><br style=3D"; =
font-family: Monaco; font-size: 9px; "></div><div>T: +31 =
252544896</div><div>M: +31 620347088</div><div>E:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a =
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margin-left: 0px; ">Those who would give up essential Liberty, to =
purchase a little temporary&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Safety, =
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</div><br><div><div>On 17, Jul, 2008, at 16:41 , Ross Anderson =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><blockquote type=3D"cite">Using a =
well designed RBAC system based on use of secure =
Cryptographic<br></blockquote><br>RBAC isn't a magic bullet any more =
than cryptography is. In fact the<br>currently deployed DCR systems use =
it, and it causes severe =
problems.</span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
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