Chip and PIN
John Brazier
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:28:36 -0000
>>To take a case a colleague described last year:
>>
>>Elderly person gives card and PIN details to helpful neighbour, helpful
>>neighbour's son finds out and spends some money on it (a phone, if
>>memory serves). Daughter of elderly person sees entry from electronics
>>store statement, and asks what had happened. Parent, not wanting to
>>admit to admit they'd been a bit naive, denies all knowledge and
>>daughter writes to the bank. Bank refuses to refund the money. What
>>do you think happened next? What do you think _should_ happen next?
>This is a very good example of problems often not being as simple as
>they appear.
>>But suppose the parent hadn't backed down? Didn't link the nice
>>neighbour with the mysterious entry? It isn't fraud, as such, but it
>>sure as hell isn't the bank's responsibility either.
>CCTV at the ATM might resolve more of these.
Strangely, though, my experience is that CCTV is never available when it's
to the punter's benefit.
JB