Chip and PIN

James Cox ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:37:38 +0000


On 24 Jan 2008, at 22:10, Igor Mozolevsky wrote:

> On 24/01/2008, James Cox <james@imaj.es> wrote:
>
>> (i know when i've had problems with my egg credit card
>> and fraud, they've refunded the money, taken care of me - including
>> doing a balance transfer to a new account setup (which meant i got  
>> the
>> cashback on the transfer, w00t!) and then refunding my interest owed
>> for that month....
>
> Don't take what egg do for 'normal business practice'... Egg were the
> only ones who took "for security reasons" as a reason to issue me a
> chip and signature card...
>

well, they do speak to the masses....

> On a separate note, can we please stop calling (at least on this list)
> someone pretending to be you "identity theft" - nobody steals who you
> are, in the sense that you no longer possess it - "identity mimicry"
> is a more relevant and less sensationalistic term...


No, i don't think so. I consider my Identity valuable. Tonly Blair  
just rented his for $5m a year to JP Morgan. I don't think there's  
anything wrong with calling it theft: if someone acquires your details  
sufficient to create lots of bad debt in your name, leaving you  
holding the bag, it's pretty darn impossible to get that wiped off  
your record. Your good creditworthiness will never be quite the same  
again.

-- james