Ministry of Defence | Defence News | MOD confirms loss of recruitment data
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ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:32:09 +0000
Ian Batten wrote:
>... the typical Tory front-bencher
> attended one of our better public schools, has a degree in PPE or
> similar from the better colleges of our better Universities,
[...]
> The Labour Party, however, is full of people with non-degrees from
> second-rate institutions
FWIW a brief trawl through the ever-reliable Wikipedia leads me
to believe that the current Labour front bench has at least
seven degrees from Oxford, mostly PPE. "At least" because I got
bored quite quickly so gave up about two thirds of the way
through. And three each from Cambridge and LSE, and a couple
from Edinburgh and other London colleges. As well as Glasgow,
Leeds, Sussex and Aberdeen. Also Harvard, U Michigan and U
Pennsylvania in the USA.
You can accuse them of having too many PPEs, and too many
lawyers, but not of having gone to "second rate" institutions.
OK one of them went to Trent Poly, but that's about it for
"second rate" institutions.
It might have been a good idea to have at least one with some
background in science though..
> I bring you Stephen Byers as a prime example,
> but there are many others.
Stephen who? Remind me which high office Gordon Brown has
appointed Stephen Byers to?
> Having to choose between clever people I
> disagree with and less clever people I agree with is hard. But when it
> comes to running a regime, to basic managerialism, clever civil servants
> will find it harder to pull the wool over the eyes of Michael Portillo
> than they will over Stephen Byers.
As neither of them is a minister that is irrelevant.
Anyway, elected politicians are not meant to be managers, they
are meant to be representatives. They do too much managing as
it is. That's what the civil servants are for. Amongst all those
PPEs and lawyers there is one - just one - who worked as a
postman when he left school. That makes this cabinet just a tiny
bit more representative than some others.
And the cleverest and best-educated cabinet this country ever
had was probably Harold Wilson's first. Did they do that much
better?