Ministry of Defence | Defence News | MOD confirms loss of recruitment
data
Peter Tomlinson
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:29:16 +0000
Ian Batten wrote:
>
> On 21 Jan 08, at 0703, Peter Tomlinson wrote:
>> Ian Batten wrote:
>>> And that, to quote George Smiley, is my _thesis_: that we get these
>>> problems because clever civil servants can get around the Labour
>>> ministers. And they couldn't the tory ones.
>>>
>>> ian
>>>
>> So why are the civil servants not working out how to do the job
>> properly?
> Define `properly'. I think in most environments outside spooky ones
> which live and die by compartmentalisation, and perhaps even in those,
> security is seen as the stuff that gets in the way of doing your job.
> I've got a 27001 surveillance audit today, and I tend to use issues
> raised in those as sticks to beat other parts of the businesses,
> because everyone wants to believe that all staff are honest, all
> visitors are legitimate and all access is authorised.
>
> ian
>
Ian, Richard Thomas was on R4 Today a little after I wrote my question,
and he put part of 'properly': in your terms, it needs a change in
culture away from those beliefs that you describe to one where everyone
handling data (or specifying and building and managing systems to handle
it) has a duty of care to ensure that data is protected when handled in
electronic systems. Or: moving from Microsh*t messy ways of doing things
to a more precise way (even M$ is getting better, we hear).
But I was looking somewhat further: at understanding and responding to
the gap between rigid and often badly specified systems and the real
world, changing the culture from one designed for the time when a huge
pyramid of officials were interpreting policy for the next layer down,
and were doing that all the way to the front line where the relationship
with businesses and citizens existed and information was collected,
stored and used. Deliberately I'm not trying to say how the new culture
will shape up, but clearly it needs to take on board best practice from
the quality managed private sector, in particular ensuring that what you
do is what you agree you will do and are able to do - that means
resourcing, training, making appointments in a way that ensures that
competent people get the jobs, appraisal, etc. Most of the quality
management stuff is govt policy that govt itself largely ignores in the
areas where the problems are. I believe that our civil servants
increasingly know that there are better ways, that they can find
examples of those better ways across Europe, but the people above them
are out of touch.
As Richard Thomas said, he's not concerned about the detail of whether
or not the data in a particular laptop is encrypted, because he wants to
see a cultural change in the public sector. That security technology
will have to adapt does, however, come within the scope of this list,
giving me the excuse for my rant....
Peter