No hiding place for fly tippers

Roland Perry ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:44:27 +0000


In article <47A4BAAD.3010603@zen.co.uk>, Peter Fairbrother 
<zenadsl6186@zen.co.uk> writes
>Roland Perry wrote:
>> In article <47A49218.7090803@zen.co.uk>, Peter Fairbrother 
>><zenadsl6186@zen.co.uk> writes
>>>>  Who is asking you to explain, when local authorities can't access 
>>>>that  data?
>>>
>>> Why can't they access it?
>>  Wrong sort of authority and person.
>>  As tracked by this kind of SI (others can no doubt quote chapter and 
>>verse): http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2005/20051083.htm
>
>Possibly: The Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Communications Data) 
>Order 2003; http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2003/20033172.htm ?
>
>Part 2 of Schedule 2 of the Order only authorises the types of 
>communications data demandable by "additional public authorities" to be 
>data defined under ss. 21(4)(b) and 21(4)(c).
>
>It's worth looking at s.21(4) again:
>
>"(4) In this Chapter “communications data” means any of the following—
>
>(a) any traffic data comprised in or attached to a communication 
>(whether by the sender or otherwise) for the purposes of any postal 
>service or telecommunication system by means of which it is being or 
>may be transmitted;
>
>(b) any information which includes none of the contents of a 
>communication (apart from any information falling within paragraph (a)) 
>and is about the use made by any person—
>
>(i) of any postal service or telecommunications service; or
>
>(ii) in connection with the provision to or use by any person of any 
>telecommunications service, of any part of a telecommunication system;
>
>(c) any information not falling within paragraph (a) or (b) that is 
>held or obtained, in relation to persons to whom he provides the 
>service, by a person providing a postal service or telecommunications 
>service."
>
>I guess location data is 21(4)(a).
>
>Good to know why (and good to know how they differentiate, which I 
>hadn't known before).

I cannot tell what point you are trying to make. Even if you are 
agreeing or disagreeing (and with what).

>>> I know "Simon Says" so, but that doesn't always make it so.
>>  Tsk. I doubt you'll ever find him being wrong on matters like this.
>
>I expect you are correct, but maybe, just once?

Very unlikely, when you live with this stuff every day.
-- 
Roland Perry