cleanfeed and wikipedia

[Peter Tomlinson]

Chris Edwards wrote:
> IWF spokesperson just lied on R4.
>
> When put to her this was the first time text has been blocked (in addition 
> to images), she specifically said they only blocked the image.
>
> At least on Virgin, I can not access the html page, with image loading 
> turned off in my browser, nor can I fetch with wget.
I listened to her as well, and to the other interviewee. As I have found 
in another area [1], she was naive. They acted on one report, and today 
will look at acting on the report about Amazon given to her live during 
the interview....

But IWF just create a list of image and page URL - they don't block 
anything. So they only listed that image as found on Wikipedia... So 
some ISPs are not just blocking wiki but proxying everything, which 
might well screw up a lot of people trying to access other sites where 
those sites check IP addrs [2], as well as people trying to edit wiki 
pages (people not knowing about the https route, for which thanks to the 
person who told us). It is the ISPs we need to put pressure on - maybe 
also web sites, because it may be that they can discover ultimate source 
IP addr, but I don't know enough about the web to be sure about that.

Peter


[1] Your ENCTS card (bus pass) is issued by your local authority (and 
your Scottish National Entitlement Card is issued by a central issuer), 
and it holds an "application" (data set and associated security 
information) complying with the ITSO Specification and rules. Local govt 
organisations might decide to use the spare space on the card to hold 
other data, such as library access, leisure pass, even local use 
e-purse. While ITSO Ltd ensures that equipment using the bus pass can 
handle several types of card platform (and soon NFC mobile phones 
emulating them), LAs might decide to accept only Mifare Classic (and 
thus have systems and equipment that only do that). ITSO Ltd recently 
decided that, as a result of the hack of Mifare, from end 2009 they will 
discontinue permitting the loading of the ITSO application onto Mifare 
Classic. Naive to do that without first negotiating with the local govt 
sector, two govt depts in England and who knows what entities in 
Scotland (OK, the Scots know) - and WAG, where bus passes are currently 
being issued with ITSO compliant chips in them, to ensure a smooth 
changeover to other platforms and get agreement on mitigating the risk 
in the meantime. Local govt does not have a contract to at least ensure 
a negotiated changeover...

[2] While it might be useful that my bank doesn't register my IP addr, 
because that lets me access my bank account from everywhere, it also 
lets anybody else access my bank account if they can discover my 
authentication information...