So what's magical about Safari?

Joel Harrison ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Thu, 3 Apr 2008 23:48:30 +0100


It occurs to me that Safari may also refuse to accept the opt-out
cookie, which would mean that Safari users would have no way of
preventing their data from being scanned.

On reflection, that may be why the reference to users' data not
passing through Webwise was deleted - it suggested Safari users got
more protection than they actually do.

On 4/3/08, Joel Harrison <joeldharrison@googlemail.com> wrote:
> It seems it's because Phorm uses 3rd party cookies (which sparked the
> whole CMA / Fraud Act thread), which Safari doesn't accept by default.
>
> This is from the Safari developers' FAQ:
>
> Safari ships with a conservative cookie policy which limits cookie
> writes to only the pages chosen ("navigated to") by the user. This
> default conservative policy may confuse frame based sites that attempt
> to write cookies and fail. Be sure to check the Safari preferences
> before assuming that your cookies are not written due to a bug; it may
> just be the users preference.
>
> Interestingly, BT has now deleted the words "and so Safari browsing
> will not pass through it" from its Webwise FAQ.  With those words
> included, it sounded like Webwise broke Safari; whereas in fact Safari
> appears to break Webwise.
>
> Joel
>
> On 4/3/08, Ian Batten <igb@batten.eu.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > So, what's the difference about Safari?  If they've gone to the effort to
> > get it working with a frankly minority sport like Opera, I presume that
> > Safari is in some way hard, rather than just untested.  The implication is
> > that Safari does something that interacts badly with Phorm's methods, and
> > either breaks things or reveals the man behind the curtain.  I've not done
> > any development for web apps since CERN httpd was the very thing for a man
> > about town, but does anyone with more current experience know of any
> > wrinkles?
> >
> > ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BT Webwise works with most major browsers, including Internet Explorer,
> > Firefox, Netscape and Opera. Safari is not supported by the BT Webwise
> > system and so Safari browsing will not pass through it. BT Webwise has been
> > tested and proven to work with the following:
> > Internet Explorer 5.5, 6.0, 7.0
> > Firefox 1.0, 1.5, 2.0
> > Opera 7.54, 8.54, 9.0
>