Minister promises that Part III is coming

Caspar Bowden ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Sat, 13 May 2006 12:12:16 +0100


>admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Morrison
...
>> So you don't think it would be a reasonable parole condition for
>> convicted child molesters to make arrangements to ensure they are
able
>> to decrypt data in their control if legally required?

>No I don't, in much the same way I wouldn't expect them to have to dig
>up their patios.

Child molesters can:=20

a) not use encryption at all
b) keep lots of backup key copies
c) use a service with key escrow

...those are all practical options (compared to them digging up their
patio). They are onerous obligations, but imposed on an (assume sane)
offender convicted of a serious choate crime. The measures are limited
to ensuring a capability to access data, and the risk of re-offending is
likely to be able to be better controlled by these (covert surveillance)
capabilities. I would say this is a proper and proportionate (in the
true sense) use of surveillance powers, rather than e.g. blanket data
retention on entire populations.

> ...the labelling of people as paedophiles when
>there is little more than hearsay (yes I'm not talking about
>convicted criminals here, but sometimes I think that some convictions
>are very questionable and smack of "get 'em at any cost") leads to a
>similar imposition of lifestyle. It's a slippery slope, and with only a
>litle grease we're all accelerating down it without brakes.

If you doubt the quality of convictions for child molestation of various
kinds, that is an OT issue for ukcrypto

>..people who are no longer sure if the courts
>are there to dispense justice and instead simply pander to
>political/public opinion then there is a more serious problem at hand.

Suggest move thread to [Redesign criminal justice system]...