Comms data requests by C&E & the Inland Revenue

Richard Clayton richard at highwayman.com
Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:24:16 +0100


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In article <000501c27bc0$15bc6280$0a00a8c0@apollo>, John R T Brazier
<prunesquallor@proproco.co.uk> writes

>Richard Clayton quoted (Comms data requests by C&E & the Inland Revenue):
>
>> Mr. John Denham: The Interception of Communications Act 1985 did not
>> provide for access to communications data. The Metropolitan Police made
>> approximately 127,000 separate requests for communication data under the
>> Data Protection Act 1998 in the last year. The access to communications
>> data provisions in the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000
>> (RIPA) have not yet been implemented.
>
>Surely this is gibberish? 

only slightly

>The DPA has much to say on personal data,
>sensitive data, data subjects, data users and so forth. It has nothing about
>"communication data". Or has the Met used the Act in an entirely negative
>sense (ie "This data isn't covered by your Act, so we're going to have it")?

the Met has served notices headed "DPA 29(3)" which have informed data
controllers about crimes that are being investigated.

The data controllers have then voluntarily released information.

I've posted about this process several times this week : have a look at
some of my other messages in that large thread you may have been
delaying catching up on till the weekend :)

>IANAL, but this seems a refreshing approach. The DPA was meant to be about
>Data Protection, not Data Exploitation.
>
>And, of course, as Richard pointed out, 127K vs 155K, what's 20% between
>friends? Amazing, given that these numbers ultimately come from the same
>organization - or do they?

they do of course cover different periods -- one being the year to July
and the other being a year to ... well Simon didn't say

if there's any overlap in the periods then of course the change will not
be 20% per annum :)

- -- 
richard                                              Richard Clayton

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.         Benjamin Franklin

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