RIP s22 notices SI

[Owen Lewis]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk
> [mailto:ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk]On Behalf Of Quentin
> Campbell
> Sent: 11 June 2002 16:13
> To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk
> Subject: RE: RIP s22 notices SI
>

MPs....

> They will say that it is anomalous that the various public bodies
> responsible for these last four matters were not specified as "relevant
> public authorities" for the purposes of section 25(1) of RIPA. The order
> before Parliament simply rectifies this omission.
>
> It seems to me that we are on stronger ground pursuing with MPs the
> point made by Roland Perry that "the police service have a strict RIPA
> manual and training procedures, and the background of years of operating
> PACE, whereas  the new Public Authorities [in the order] do not". MPs
> may be able to make some progress on this matter; they are very unlikely
> to change the Government's mind on who is in the schedule.

Thank you. The two ends may come together. The purpose of the Act is to aid
national security and the detection of crime. If that is so, then the bodies
already on the access list should be sufficient. Any other governmental body
or QUANGO that needs such information should be provided it by one of the
agencies already listed. I do not see the need to allow the range of
agencies to pursue their own interest in our affairs. If it is a matter of
national security then it is a concern of the security services. If it is a
matter of crime, then it is a matter for the police. Tax or levy avoidance,
breaches of environmental law and regulation, health & safety regulation
etc. are crimes. Let those charged with the national security or the
detection of crime deal with the matter of access to communications data.

The case for allowing (e.g.) the Office of Fair Trading or you local council
to dabble in communications traffic analysis is, overall, dangerous to the
public good and is not essential to the purposes of the Act. On the rare
occasions that they have good cause to obtain information from comms data,
let them be provided with a certified analysis of the necessary data.

Owen