Black boxes in Canada

Pete Chown 1 at 234.cx
Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:21:21 +0100


Richard Clayton wrote:

>         computer-related fraud
>             there's a problem with Fraud in the UK since you cannot
>             mislead a machine

Is this hole not plugged by the CMA?  One of the offences in the CMA is 
unauthorised use of a computer with intent to commit theft.

IMHO R. v. Gold and Schifreen (the case about deceiving computers) was 
decided correctly.  As a matter of common sense, you can't deceive a 
machine because it isn't capable of forming an opinion about anything. 
I could imagine this giving rise to all sorts of odd issues in practice, 
as courts attempted to figure out exactly how a lie needed to be 
expressed in order for a machine to be "deceived".

>         jurisdiction
>             all offences must apply to nationals even though the offence
>             takes place abroad

That sounds odd, why don't they ask for extradition in that situation? 
They have the right to, apparently:

>         extradition
>             all the (serious) offences need to be included into all
>             extradition treaties

-- 
Pete