Guardian: Privacy fear over (new) plan to store email etc --- effects onsociety

[David_Biggins@usermgmt.com]

I know - that was kind of the point I was making - and $cheap
disposables will simply increase the desire for "pay and talk".

I doubt the forces will be able to put thid particular genie back in the
bottle now, much as they'd like to - let alone once disposables get
widespread.

As John says, the real market will be when they come in vending
machines.

## dave ##

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Brown [mailto:k.brown@ccs.bbk.ac.uk]
> Sent: Friday, 23 August, 2002 11:01
> To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk
> Subject: Re: Guardian: Privacy fear over (new) plan to store email etc
> --- effects onsociety
> 
> 
> But this has been the case in UK for 5 years!
> 
> David_Biggins@usermgmt.com wrote:
> > 
> > Agreed, but as I understand it, they are to be sold over 
> the counter.
> > 
> > If cash is paid, there will be no identification, no?
> > 
> > Nobody is going to be prepared to go through a huge ID 
> rigmarole for a
> > phone with only a few dollars of prepay credit.
> > 
> > ## dave ##
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roland Perry [mailto:roland@linx.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 22 August, 2002 03:34
> > > To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk
> > > Subject: Re: Guardian: Privacy fear over (new) plan to 
> store email etc
> > > --- effects on society
> > >
> > >
> > > In message
> > > <7A22BCE2D43E9D46B2D0FB6E2071C4520154A3@pc1-swin1-4-cust84.oxf
> > > .cable.ntl.
> > > com>, David_Biggins@usermgmt.com writes
> > > >Given that in the USA they are shortly to introduce
> > > disposable pre-pay
> > > >phones,   I think this genie is already out of the bottle.
> > >
> > > The existence of a *disposable* phone says nothing about 
> the user's
> > > ability to connect it to a network without identifying themselves.
> > > --
> > > Roland Perry
> > >
> > >
> 
>