----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fairbrother" <peter.fairbrother@ntlworld.com> To: <UKcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Sent: 09 March 2001 19:04 Subject: Name wanted > Torturing passwords out of people with threats of beatings is usually called > rubberhose cryptanalysis. Nah, that's for wimps. Real cryptanalysis requires actual beatings. But always preferred the suede covered sap, myself. Owen