Wired: Echelon Furor Ends in a Whimper

[Phantom Ink]

Greg wrote:
All History is tragedy illegitimate dynasties, treachery. What we do to
others is perhaps part of the demiurge of the original matter from the
bacteria of the stars, alien creations, with a penchant for hypocrisy.
Another mandate is abroad the world making it more like the stars and the
burnt out cinder suns of chaos. Think of us as Religious Bacteria. And
religion, even religion of the machine is elitism.
States are the servants of the Gods. Don't get too concerned with yerself or
ethics.
It all comes out as lies, defending our little world from economic disaster,
repatriating history with explanations to each other or ourselves. We cannot
stop ourselves from bending to this force. We are driven by each other to be
cold indifferent, hostile, grasping.
Just like the bacteria we came from.
Gods alright now, he just can't remember which one of us he is.
Nenius said that the three stages of language shall be classical, romanic,
and finally demotic. We are here in the third circle. Double speak, state
lies, men will never know the truth, we will never understand it. So sublime
is this absolute. Hegel tells us not to bother looking for it, because we
can never know it.
'Course revisionism is very popular right now. Everything is up for grabs
when rational thought is threatened, especially history. We are at the end
of history if it ever existed, phenomenologically speaking, a new broadsheet
is being made, and your name isn't on it. It's called the Techno Dark Ages.
Where men shall be murdered without any ill in the police we build in our
silence
I call it all Virtual Pancakeville.
Good hunting
GB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald ramsbottom" <donald@ramsbottom.co.uk>
To: <ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Wired: Echelon Furor Ends in a Whimper


> I think I agree with Owen on this one.
>
> Sure the US is not as pure as driven snow, but neither is anyone else.
>
> Nicaragua has been quoted, but look what the Spaniards did and before that
> the Maya and Toltecs.
>
> The Native Americans have been quoted, but what was done was pretty much
> standard Imperial policy of all of Europe at the time. The Indians
> themselves were not above Genocide.
>
> Uncle Sam does what he needs to. We belly ache because we used to and can
> no longer. The Germans used to be able to, can no longer but want to be
> able to do the same as the US. And the French, the dear dear French, have
> always done exactly what they wanted to, when they wanted to.
>
> We should not get all huffy, all Nations do it to all other Nations, its
> just that Uncle Sam is the biggest boy on the block and the rest do not
> like it, or want to be in his Gang, it makes them feel more important (or
> more accurately their "Leaders").
>
> So we all know Echelon exists, all "developed Countries" have their own
> version, and although we can take precautions to minimise its effect, most
> do not and we are not encouraged to as that would affect our own Gov's
> ability.
>
> So Owen, however un PC this is I stand with you to be shot at:)
>
>
>
>
> Donald Ramsbottom BA LLb (Hons) PGdip
> Ramsbottom & Co Solicitors
> Internet and Global Encryption Law Specialists & General UK  Law Matters
> 5 Seagrove Avenue Hayling Island Hampshire UK
> Tel (44) 023 9246 5931 Fax (44) 023 9246 8349
> Regulated by the Law Society in the conduct of Investment business
> Service by Fax or Email NOT accepted
>
>
>