YouGov :"POLL - Blunkett's proposals on internet privacy: for or against"
Mary Hawking
maryhawking at tigers.demon.co.uk
Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:53:37 +0000
Possibly a bit off topic, but is NHSNet counted as an ISP?
And is this still traffic data without content?
Mary Hawking
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In article <200112151638.QAA00153@clw.cs.man.ac.uk>, Charles Lindsey
<chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk> writes
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:14:19 -0000
> "Alison Wheeler \(crypto\)" <crypto@creative.org.uk> said...
>
>> As a working hypothesis, I've rather concluded that the act as passed
>> requires ISPs, relayers, TELCOs (effectively everyone by the time you follow
>> it through) to KEEP all data but NEVER look at it for ANY purpose unless
>> Blunkett asks to see it (sic).
>
>Yes, I think that's about it. It is even workable.
>
>First of all, you keep it for as long as you need it for your own
>purposes (billing, or enabling your abuse department to LART spammers).
>Call it one month for the sake of argument. If Plod wants to see it
>during that time, for investigating shoplifting, or something, then he
>serves a notice under Chapter II of RIPA. That is all covered (well,
>more or less) under existing law.
>
>After the month is up, you still keep it, but embargoed as you said
>above (but under RIPA, they still cannot ask you to keep more detail
>than is reasonably practicable - I haven't heard that the new Bill
>changes that). Now, if Plod comes along with his notice, and the notice
>mentions "National Security" (these notices HAVE to specify a purpose,
>and "National Security" is already one of the official purposes under
>RIPA), then he can have the data. Otherwise, he cannot.
>>
>> How you locate the requisite piece of data requested should, of course, be
>> left as an exercise to be carried out when the request is made <g>
>
>Just say "grep" :-) .
>
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