An Interesting RIP Report Stage Amendment

[Brian Gladman]

From: "Charles Lindsey" <chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk>
To: <ukcrypto@maillist.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: An Interesting RIP Report Stage Amendment


> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:04:04 +0100
> Brian Gladman <brian.gladman@btconnect.com> said...
>
> > "The matters to be taken into account in considering whether
> > the requirement of subsection (2)(b) is satisfied in the case of
> > any direction shall include the extent and nature of any protected
> > information, in addition to the protected information in respect of
> > which the disclosure requirement is imposed, to which the key
> > is also a key."
>
> This is actually an amendment from the Earl of Northesk in Committee,
> rewritten by the HO with twice the word count.
> >
> > This clause seems to say that the authorities must take into account
> > ***other*** information that a seized key might protect. Since the
> > authorities have no right to such information (not even a right to know
> > whether it exists) I can only see one way in which they can take this
into
> > account.
> >
> > Plod: "I wan't your key";
> > Me: "If you seize my key you are obliged by law to take account of all
the
> > information that my key protects";
>
> Sure. But this is just the SOS or whoever being required to "take
> account" of something. He can't take account of what he doesn't know
> about, so I think you have to tell him at least enough to give him
> something to think about.

He can take account of 'what he does not know' by not seizing my key.

     Brian