From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Nov 12 23:08:52 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CSkXE-0003T5-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:08:52 +0000 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-16265-1100300-1; 12 Nov 2004 23:08:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:09:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:08:48 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> References: <3abd5b0a4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2004 23:09:17.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2B15E20:01C4C90C] Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi folks, In message John-Mark Bell wrote: > In message <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> > Stefan Bellon wrote: > > > After copying !TexFonts.Utilities.AddToPath to the Run$Path, > > John-Mark's problem 1) is solved. > > > > Aha! Thanks for that, I hadn't noticed that being there ;) Still, it may > well be sensible to do something akin to what !gcc does: > > If "" = "" Then Set Run$Path ,TeXBin: > Set TeXBin$Path texmf:armtex.bin. > > As it saves the user having to put AddToPath somewhere sane ;) Well, I've tried messing about with both of these solutions and so far haven't managed to solve the AddToPath error, no doubt because of my own lack of skill. I would be grateful for a little more details as to exactly what to do to get this new distribution to work. Kind regards, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Nov 13 18:36:32 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with smtp (return-path lists@flypig.co.uk) id 1CT2lE-00074c-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:36:32 +0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with smtp id sauce-11184-1100370-1; 13 Nov 2004 18:36:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 26822 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2004 16:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Nov 2004 16:49:45 -0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 20769-10 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 26791 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2004 16:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Iyonix) (83.151.197.175) by smtp.e7even.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2004 16:49:43 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 14:16:54 GMT From: David Llewellyn-Jones To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: References: <3abd5b0a4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at e7even.com Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> Richard Smith wrote: > In message > John-Mark Bell wrote: > > > In message <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> > > Stefan Bellon wrote: > > > > > After copying !TexFonts.Utilities.AddToPath to the Run$Path, > > > John-Mark's problem 1) is solved. > > > > > > > Aha! Thanks for that, I hadn't noticed that being there ;) Still, it may > > well be sensible to do something akin to what !gcc does: > > > > If "" = "" Then Set Run$Path ,TeXBin: > > Set TeXBin$Path texmf:armtex.bin. > > > > As it saves the user having to put AddToPath somewhere sane ;) > > Well, I've tried messing about with both of these solutions and so far > haven't managed to solve the AddToPath error, no doubt because of my own > lack of skill. I would be grateful for a little more details as to exactly > what to do to get this new distribution to work. It's difficult to know exactly what the problem is for you, but if you've tried the two suggestions above and they don't work, I suggest you try downloading Olly Betts's AddToPath utility that you can get from here: Copy it inside "$.!Boot.Library" and try re-booting both !TeX and !TeXFonts (that is, re-run their !Boot files). Hopefully this will do the trick. I've been meaning to make suitable changes to the original archives but haven't yet got around to it. David -- Website: http://www.flypig.co.uk From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 14 10:58:35 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CTI5b-0005jm-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:58:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-4846-1100429-1; 14 Nov 2004 10:58:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:59:02 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:58:30 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: References: <3abd5b0a4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2004 10:59:02.0389 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3683A50:01C4CA38] Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > In message <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> > Richard Smith wrote: > > > In message > > John-Mark Bell wrote: > > > > > In message <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> > > > Stefan Bellon wrote: > > > > > > > After copying !TexFonts.Utilities.AddToPath to the Run$Path, > > > > John-Mark's problem 1) is solved. > > > > > > Aha! Thanks for that, I hadn't noticed that being there ;) Still, it > > > may well be sensible to do something akin to what !gcc does: > > > > > > If "" = "" Then Set Run$Path ,TeXBin: Set > > > TeXBin$Path texmf:armtex.bin. > > > > > > As it saves the user having to put AddToPath somewhere sane ;) > > > > Well, I've tried messing about with both of these solutions and so far > > haven't managed to solve the AddToPath error, no doubt because of my own > > lack of skill. I would be grateful for a little more details as to > > exactly what to do to get this new distribution to work. > > It's difficult to know exactly what the problem is for you, but if you've > tried the two suggestions above and they don't work, I suggest you try > downloading Olly Betts's AddToPath utility that you can get from here: > > > > Copy it inside "$.!Boot.Library" and try re-booting both !TeX and !TeXFonts > (that is, re-run their !Boot files). Hopefully this will do the trick. OK, thanks very much for your suggestion. I tried !Boot.Library and that didn't work, but !Boot.Library.RiscOS did, in that it allowed the directory containing the new 32-bit ArmTeX to be opened without the AddtoPath error. However, trying to run any of my LaTeX files (which all have a big red cross through them!!) produces the error that an application that loads that sort of file hasn't been found, despite the new !TeX and !TeXFonts being visible in an open window at the time, plus (for good measure) being Filer_Booted too.:-) I tried putting the AddtoPath file from inside !TeXFonts.Utilities inside !Boot.Library.RiscOS instead - same result. Ho hum...I suppose this is meant to run on a Risc OS 4.39 Risc PC and not just on the Iyonix, is it...? > I've been meaning to make suitable changes to the original archives but > haven't yet got around to it. Perhaps best to wait for this. I still have the old armTeX which works OK, plus the old Graham Toal one kicking around somewhere... Best wishes, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 14 15:10:45 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with smtp (return-path lists@flypig.co.uk) id 1CTM1d-0008Tm-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:10:45 +0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with smtp id sauce-7502-1100445-1; 14 Nov 2004 15:10:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 29456 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2004 15:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Nov 2004 15:10:37 -0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 20714-04 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 29451 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2004 15:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Iyonix) (83.151.197.175) by smtp.e7even.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2004 15:10:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:09:58 GMT From: David Llewellyn-Jones To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: References: <3abd5b0a4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at e7even.com Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message Richard Smith wrote: > In message > David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > [snip] > > It's difficult to know exactly what the problem is for you, but if you've > > tried the two suggestions above and they don't work, I suggest you try > > downloading Olly Betts's AddToPath utility that you can get from here: > > > > > > > > Copy it inside "$.!Boot.Library" and try re-booting both !TeX and > > !TeXFonts (that is, re-run their !Boot files). Hopefully this will do the > > trick. > > OK, thanks very much for your suggestion. I tried !Boot.Library and that > didn't work, but !Boot.Library.RiscOS did, in that it allowed the directory > containing the new 32-bit ArmTeX to be opened without the AddtoPath error. Sorry; I hadn't noticed you were using a RiscPC, and I'd forgotten that the RO 4 boot might be different. If you no longer get the error, it sounds like you've found the right place for AddtoPath! > However, trying to run any of my LaTeX files (which all have a big red > cross through them!!) produces the error that an application that loads > that sort of file hasn't been found, despite the new !TeX and !TeXFonts > being visible in an open window at the time, plus (for good measure) being > Filer_Booted too.:-) There is a good explanation for this: your files were probably created for an older version of armTeX. Since then, the file type assignment for TeX and LaTeX files has changed (I think they were changed when an official filetype was assigned to them). This is why there's a big cross through them! The new filetypes should not have this cross. You'll have to SetType all of your files again if you want them to work with this latest version of armTeX. To do this, click menu on each of your LaTeX files, follow the menu "File 'name' >" and then "Set type >" and enter "LaTeX" and hit return. Alternatively you can enter the new filetype number which is "ACA" (in hex) in the same way. You'll have to do something similar for any TeX files you have as well, changing them to "TeX" or "CE5". If you have a lot of files to do, I've placed a couple of utilities here that might make the process a bit easier: Just run the two applications contained in the archive and drag the files that need changing to the iconbar icons to change them to the correct type. > I tried putting the AddtoPath file from inside !TeXFonts.Utilities inside > !Boot.Library.RiscOS instead - same result. Yes, the two problems aren't related I'm afraid, so you'll have to make both the AddToPath and the SetType changes to get a fully working system with this latest release. With the official assignment of new filetypes, the latter change was inevitable I'm afraid, and the transition was always going to be a bit problematic. > Ho hum...I suppose this is meant to run on a Risc OS 4.39 Risc PC and not > just on the Iyonix, is it...? To be honest, although the 32-bit release *should* work on a RiscPC, it doesn't offer anything over the last 26-bit version (version 3). However, it sounds like you have an older version than that, so you'd be wise to upgrade to at least version 3. From a personal point of view it would also be nice to have confirmation that the new system does work on a RiscPC, if you can get it to work :) Regards, David -- Website: http://www.flypig.co.uk From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 14 16:35:51 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from pD95DB816.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.93.184.22] helo=roma.localnet) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path sbellon@sbellon.de) id 1CTNLz-0000iT-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:35:51 +0000 X-SAUCE-Notice: (chiark.greenend.org.uk) Irritated 3179ms (delays likely) with pD95DB816.dip.t-dialin.net [217.93.184.22] Received: from pD95DB816.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.93.184.22]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-8484-1100450-1; 14 Nov 2004 16:35:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (helo=iyonix) by roma.localnet with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CTIyk-00010g-00 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:55:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:55:46 +0100 Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: <4d0db171efsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: References: <3abd5b0a4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain X-RBL-Warning: (dnsbl.sorbs.net) Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?217.93.184.22 Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Richard Smith wrote: > However, trying to run any of my LaTeX files (which all have a big > red cross through them!!) The red cross indicates that they are typed wrongly. Those are the old filetypes that have been re-allocated to the new ones. That explains why you get the "No application that loads this filetype ..." error. Type the files appropriately and it should work. -- Stefan Bellon From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 14 17:09:19 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CTNsM-0004Bk-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:09:18 +0000 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-8805-1100452-1; 14 Nov 2004 17:09:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:09:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:09:09 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: References: <3abd5b0a4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> <4d0ad44f7fsbellon@sbellon.de> <3f64e70c4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2004 17:09:45.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD105760:01C4CA6C] Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: [snipping to tidy up a bit...] > There is a good explanation for this: your files were probably created for > an older version of armTeX. Since then, the file type assignment for TeX > and LaTeX files has changed (I think they were changed when an official > filetype was assigned to them). This is why there's a big cross through > them! The new filetypes should not have this cross. OK...right...I see that, although interestingly if I fire up my old armTeX old my LaTeX files (type &2a8) don't have a cross - presumably because the old armTex is supplying the filetype association. Thanks /very/ much for the settype utilities which work a dream, that was kind of you. [snip again] > From a personal point of view it would also be nice to have confirmation > that the new system does work on a RiscPC, if you can get it to work :) Me too.:-)) However, I'm still not quite there, but it's feeling closer.:-) Putting either Olly Betts's AddtoPath utility or the one in !TeXFonts.Utilities (but not both!) in !Boot.Library.RiscOS allows me to open the directory containing the new armTeX without the AddtoPath error, and changing the filetype removes the red cross OK... ...but trying to run any of them causes an error 'LaTeX may have gone wrong', which it is described as 'Abort on data transfer at &00008078'. Acknowledging this clear the error box and returns the computer to my control, but any subsequent attempt to run LaTeX locks the machine solid (every time), requiring a scrabble round the back and RESET to be pressed.:-(( (There's one reason to get an Iyonix - isn't the RESET button on the front?) Many thanks for your kind assistance so far - I'm keen to get the new version going too, so any further suggestions will be investigated with interest. Best wishes, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 14 17:43:57 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([152.78.71.4]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path jmb202@ecs.soton.ac.uk) id 1CTOPs-0007x9-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:43:56 +0000 Received: from rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([152.78.71.4]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-9159-1100454-1; 14 Nov 2004 17:43:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from crow.ecs.soton.ac.uk (crow [152.78.71.3]) by rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA28300 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:43:54 GMT Received: from tarrant.ecs.soton.ac.uk (tarrant [152.78.71.24]) by crow.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAEHhpLc022971 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:43:51 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:43:51 +0000 (GMT) From: John-Mark Bell To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@ecs.soton.ac.uk for more information X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: jmb202@ecs.soton.ac.uk Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Richard Smith wrote: [snip] > ...but trying to run any of them causes an error 'LaTeX may have gone wrong', > which it is described as 'Abort on data transfer at &00008078'. Acknowledging > this clear the error box and returns the computer to my control, but any > subsequent attempt to run LaTeX locks the machine solid (every time), > requiring a scrabble round the back and RESET to be pressed.:-(( I suspect this is caused by insufficient wimpslot being allocated for the executables. I posted this to csa.apps: > One other minor issue - the Wimpslot values in the TeX, LaTeX and Mf > obey files need increasing by 200k. To do this, simply *filer_opendir texbin: and open the LaTeX, Mf and TeX obey files in a text editor and increase the WimpSlot values by 200. > (There's one reason to get an Iyonix - isn't the RESET button on the > front?) It is. John. From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 14 23:21:31 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.8]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CTTgZ-0003Wi-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:21:31 +0000 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.8]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-12297-1100474-1; 14 Nov 2004 23:21:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:21:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:21:20 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: <0936f00d4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2004 23:21:58.0155 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCA255B0:01C4CAA0] Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Richard Smith wrote: > > [snip] > > > ...but trying to run any of them causes an error 'LaTeX may have gone > > wrong', which it is described as 'Abort on data transfer at &00008078'. > > Acknowledging this clear the error box and returns the computer to my > > control, but any subsequent attempt to run LaTeX locks the machine solid > > (every time), requiring a scrabble round the back and RESET to be > > pressed.:-(( > > I suspect this is caused by insufficient wimpslot being allocated for the > executables. I posted this to csa.apps: > > > One other minor issue - the Wimpslot values in the TeX, LaTeX and Mf > > obey files need increasing by 200k. > > To do this, simply *filer_opendir texbin: and open the LaTeX, Mf and TeX > obey files in a text editor and increase the WimpSlot values by 200. Ah...I must have missed this. Thank you so much for repeating the information here, which has allowed it to COMPILE...YAY!! :-))) The filer_opendir texbin: didn't work but I found the files and increased the wimpslot as described. It's not finding my own style files, even though I've copied them into !TeX.texmf.local I thought at first it was because they were lacking the /sty extension, but adding that hasn't helped. Isn't that the right place for them? Big progress today - many thanks for all the helpful advice received. Best wishes, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Nov 17 10:57:00 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with smtp (return-path lists@flypig.co.uk) id 1CUNUi-00086Q-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:57:00 +0000 X-SAUCE-Notice: (chiark.greenend.org.uk) Irritated 64628ms (delays likely) with smtp.e7even.com [83.151.192.5] Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with smtp id sauce-4963-1100689-1; 17 Nov 2004 10:57:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 23937 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2004 00:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 2004 00:10:14 -0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 23422-04 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 23933 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2004 00:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Iyonix) (83.151.197.175) by smtp.e7even.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2004 00:10:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:07:42 GMT From: David Llewellyn-Jones To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: <9d74f40d4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> References: <0936f00d4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0936f00d4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at e7even.com Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message <0936f00d4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> Richard Smith wrote: [snip] > It's not finding my own style files, even though I've copied them into > !TeX.texmf.local I thought at first it was because they were lacking the > /sty extension, but adding that hasn't helped. Isn't that the right place > for them? You've got the right place, but you also need to set up the 'local' directory with the same structure as the directories above it. So, you'll need to create 'tex.latex' folders inside your 'local' folder and place your /sty file inside there (assuming it's a latex style file). The final pathname should be something like: !TeX.texmf.local.tex.latex.mystyles/sty Incidentally, it will also pick up style files kept in the same folder as the LaTeX file being compiled, so if the above doesn't work, you should be able to do this instead. Hope this helps :) David -- Website: http://www.flypig.co.uk From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Nov 17 11:04:31 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with smtp (return-path lists@flypig.co.uk) id 1CUNbz-0000mm-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:04:31 +0000 X-SAUCE-Notice: (chiark.greenend.org.uk) Irritated 33543ms (delays likely) with smtp.e7even.com [83.151.192.5] Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with smtp id sauce-5082-1100689-1; 17 Nov 2004 11:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 10151 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2004 19:04:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Nov 2004 19:04:26 -0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 00827-10 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 10147 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2004 19:04:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Iyonix) (83.151.197.175) by smtp.e7even.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2004 19:04:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:02:41 GMT From: David Llewellyn-Jones To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Updated armTeX Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at e7even.com Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: There were a number of teething problems with the original version of 32-bit armTeX I uploaded. I've now got around to sorting some of the issues out, and the new version is on the website: The fixes are as follows: - AddToPath utility is now included with the distribution in a more sensible way, - wimpslot increased to a suitable value, - new Zap TeX buttons installation procedure (part of BuTeX). For those still having trouble getting things to work it might be worth downloading this latest version. For simplicity there's no upgrade version (you have to download the whole lot again), but if anyone would find it easier (e.g. if you're on dialup), I'd be happy to create a very small upgrade archive. Just let me know. Thanks for all of the helpful suggestions and solutions that people have sent. David -- Website: http://www.flypig.co.uk From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Nov 17 19:42:06 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CUVgs-00081E-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:42:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-12365-1100720-2; 17 Nov 2004 19:42:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:42:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:41:01 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Add to Path problem: (was Re: 32-bit LaTeX) Message-ID: <738c670f4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> References: <0936f00d4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> <9d74f40d4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> In-Reply-To: <9d74f40d4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 19:42:30.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[931A0050:01C4CCDD] Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message <9d74f40d4d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > In message <0936f00d4d.Richard@risctex.blueyonder.co.uk> > Richard Smith wrote: > [snip] > > It's not finding my own style files, even though I've copied them into > > !TeX.texmf.local I thought at first it was because they were lacking > > the /sty extension, but adding that hasn't helped. Isn't that the right > > place for them? > > You've got the right place, but you also need to set up the 'local' > directory with the same structure as the directories above it. > > So, you'll need to create 'tex.latex' folders inside your 'local' folder > and place your /sty file inside there (assuming it's a latex style file). > > The final pathname should be something like: > > !TeX.texmf.local.tex.latex.mystyles/sty > > Incidentally, it will also pick up style files kept in the same folder as > the LaTeX file being compiled, so if the above doesn't work, you should be > able to do this instead. > > Hope this helps :) It certainly did - all styles found now, many thanks.:-)) Regards, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Nov 17 19:42:04 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CUVgp-00081E-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:42:03 +0000 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.9]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-12365-1100720-1; 17 Nov 2004 19:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:42:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:39:46 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Updated armTeX Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 19:42:29.0038 (UTC) FILETIME=[9277CCE0:01C4CCDD] Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > There were a number of teething problems with the original version of > 32-bit armTeX I uploaded. I've now got around to sorting some of the issues > out, and the new version is on the website: Oooh, great! :-) Testing on a Risc OS 4.39 (Adjust) Risc PC then: > The fixes are as follows: > - AddToPath utility is now included with the distribution in a more > sensible way, This work fine here - many thanks.:-) > - wimpslot increased to a suitable value, Er...I think it's possible that this didn't make it into the final archive as I had a repeat of the crashing problem, and on checking the wimpslots in !TeX.texmf.armtex.bin I found that LaTeX, Mf and TeX were still as they were initially. I increased them by 200 (as recommended by JMB IIRC), and that seems to be OK now. > - new Zap TeX buttons installation procedure (part of BuTeX). I see this is for !Zap 1.46 which I gave up on a little while back and went back to 1.45 as I couldn't get any of the buttons to work. I tried adding your module in !ZapUser but it didn't work in 1.45...:-( On another note, for the sake of clarity am I right in assuming that !TeXFonts and !DVIview are unchanged in this release, please? Many thanks for providing this release - it seems to be compiling OK now.:-)) Regards, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 21 21:38:31 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with smtp (return-path lists@flypig.co.uk) id 1CVzPj-0007Rn-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:38:31 +0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with smtp id sauce-11108-1101073-1; 21 Nov 2004 21:38:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 25962 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2004 21:38:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Nov 2004 21:38:15 -0000 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 25554-03 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:38:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 17906 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2004 21:25:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Iyonix) (83.151.197.175) by smtp.e7even.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2004 21:25:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:21:46 GMT From: David Llewellyn-Jones To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Updated armTeX Message-ID: <7e1d80114d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at e7even.com Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message Richard Smith wrote: > In message > David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > [snip] > > The fixes are as follows: > > - AddToPath utility is now included with the distribution in a more > > sensible way, > > This work fine here - many thanks.:-) Thanks for testing this all out, it's good to know that it's (finally) pretty much there :) > > - wimpslot increased to a suitable value, > > Er...I think it's possible that this didn't make it into the final archive > as I had a repeat of the crashing problem, and on checking the wimpslots in > !TeX.texmf.armtex.bin I found that LaTeX, Mf and TeX were still as they > were initially. I increased them by 200 (as recommended by JMB IIRC), and > that seems to be OK now. Ooops :( Sorry, somehow this must have got missed out; thanks greatly for pointing out the error. This really, honestly, should now be fixed ;) If you've already changed your own version, there's no need to download it all again, of course. > > - new Zap TeX buttons installation procedure (part of BuTeX). > > I see this is for !Zap 1.46 which I gave up on a little while back and went > back to 1.45 as I couldn't get any of the buttons to work. I tried adding > your module in !ZapUser but it didn't work in 1.45...:-( I think the structure of ZapUser (or rather the modules structure) has been changed between 1.45 and 1.46, which would explain this. I've put a new version of the buttons up with a 1.45 version in, although I can't test it as I'm running 1.46 here. If anyone gets the chance to test it, I'd be interested in any results. > On another note, for the sake of clarity am I right in assuming that > !TeXFonts and !DVIview are unchanged in this release, please? Yes, this is pretty much right. I think I may have changed some details in some of the help files, but nothing worth downloading 7 meg worth of stuff for. > Many thanks for providing this release - it seems to be compiling OK > now.:-)) Glad to hear it. Thanks for taking the time to respond to it! Cheers, David -- Website: http://www.flypig.co.uk From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Nov 21 23:36:51 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path richard@risctex.freeuk.com) id 1CW1GF-0003dS-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:36:51 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-12517-1101080-1; 21 Nov 2004 23:36:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from standalone.risctex.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.45.238.52]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:37:17 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:10:40 GMT From: Richard Smith To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: Updated armTeX Message-ID: References: <7e1d80114d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> In-Reply-To: <7e1d80114d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> Reply-To: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk X-Organization: At home... User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.39) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2004 23:37:17.0826 (UTC) FILETIME=[09B13E20:01C4D023] X-RBL-Warning: (multihop.dsbl.org) http://dsbl.org/listing?ip=195.188.213.5 X-RBL-Warning: (unconfirmed.dsbl.org) http://dsbl.org/listing?ip=195.188.213.5 Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In message <7e1d80114d.llewelld@flypig.e7even.com> David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > In message > Richard Smith wrote: > > > In message > > David Llewellyn-Jones wrote: > > > > > The fixes are as follows: > > > - AddToPath utility is now included with the distribution in a more > > > sensible way, > > > > This work fine here - many thanks.:-) > > Thanks for testing this all out, it's good to know that it's (finally) > pretty much there :) My pleasure.:-) > > > - wimpslot increased to a suitable value [snip] > Ooops :( Sorry, somehow this must have got missed out; thanks greatly for > pointing out the error. > > This really, honestly, should now be fixed ;) If you've already changed > your own version, there's no need to download it all again, of course. OK, I presume it's only increasing the WimpSlots in those three files, is it? > I think the structure of ZapUser (or rather the modules structure) has been > changed between 1.45 and 1.46, which would explain this. I've put a new > version of the buttons up with a 1.45 version in, although I can't test it > as I'm running 1.46 here. If anyone gets the chance to test it, I'd be > interested in any results. Works fine here on 1.45 now, many thanks - a column of pretty buttons down the left hand side...oooh.:-) Best wishes, Richard -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Richard Smith Please reply to: risctex@blueyonder.co.uk Acorn StrongARM Risc PC http://www.risctex.freeuk.com /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Apr 20 14:31:10 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.202]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with esmtp (return-path kothari.vishal@gmail.com) id 1DOFIM-0007h8-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:31:10 +0100 X-SAUCE-Notice: (chiark.greenend.org.uk) Irritated 68979ms (delays likely) with rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202] Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.202]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.1) with esmtp id sauce-4947-1114003-1; 20 Apr 2005 13:31:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so125851rnf for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Oh9hOXL+GBXMlCnPvn43uM3U0x8vWKwqxH+EHyK7Iu7p1jCkA9qkbImsrSGD5ECOeX+ClMCFRAEUFG3raMGRWT8bAlUeAaFh5TygZjbVnL2Vb0uVUY0tgwPBTDtKxcFXjA03wMwgAzYacsQgIsFwhNBaBMYcfTIpRsvKOGQ8G40= Received: by 10.38.150.79 with SMTP id x79mr880690rnd; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.150.12 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:01:08 +0530 From: Vishal Kothari Reply-To: Vishal Kothari To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: pdfTex Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am trying to build an application for the Psion 5MX device which contains the EPOC Operating System and the ARM 710T processor. The application is in C. The application is pdfTex i.e. a tex to pdf conver= ter. Does armtex contain a tex to pdf converter? Can you tell me as to how can I compile armtex for the EPOC OS? --=20 Regards, Vishal Kothari. From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Apr 21 16:48:09 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with local (return-path theom@chiark.greenend.org.uk) id 1DOduT-0002Hb-00; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:48:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:48:09 +0100 From: Theo Markettos To: Vishal Kothari Cc: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Re: pdfTex Message-ID: <20050421154809.GL20587@chiark.greenend.org.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-PGP-Key: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~theom/pubkey.asc Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 07:01:08PM +0530, Vishal Kothari wrote: > I am trying to build an application for the Psion 5MX device which > contains the EPOC Operating System and the ARM 710T processor. > The application is in C. The application is pdfTex i.e. a tex to pdf converter. > Does armtex contain a tex to pdf converter? > Can you tell me as to how can I compile armtex for the EPOC OS? armtex is a slight misnomer these days - it dates from maybe 1992 when the only major OS to run on the ARM was RISC OS. So there's nothing particularly ARM-related in armtex, and the only merit it has for other platforms is it's a fairly simple, if old, build of tex. But the distribution itself is rather out of date. But it doesn't have pdftex in it. I think you'll need a recent web2c-based distribution for this. How Unix-like is the EPOC build environment? If it's POSIX compliant you should be able to build something like tetex, though it's a fairly major process. I'm not sure the memory in the Psion would be up to it though. Alternatively there's a web2c-based package of pdftex on CTAN at: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/web2c/ which is much smaller. I don't know how much else you'll need though. Particularly getting a suitable texmf tree and convincing kpathsea (the library that handles locating files in tex) to understand the right paths can be a bit tricky. You could also try: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/tex2pdf/ which seems to be a Windows take on the same package. Possibly web2c isn't required, but I haven't looked at it in great detail. There don't seem to be too many small TeX distributions which include pdftex, possibly since it's not part of Knuth's distribution and is rather large in itself. Though I'm not particularly clued-up on alternative distributions, I'm afraid. If you really want to compile armtex, I imagine it would just mean creating yourself a new set of Makefiles and there are a few core files which have RISC OS code in them. 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MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) 注意！！： 御利用料金は期限以内に必ずお支払い下さい。 支払期限を過ぎてもお支払いが確認されない場合には御利用入会金に加えて延滞金が別途加算されます。 それでも未払い状態が続きますと所轄の裁判所を通じて民事執行手続等の強制執行督促へと移行する可能性があります。 また、その際に発生した費用は全てお客様のご負担になりますので御注意ください。 当サイトは稀少画像を逐一アップロード致します。 ログイン時の為にIDとパスワードは大切に保管してください。 ---------------------------------------------------------- サイト名：Torture'Hell〜女戦士地獄の拷問 ページURL：http://infoest.dynu.com/Login.aspx?mode=93939?mode=EB1BBD1C8F555E0BD78F67B9E967B868 サイト御利用規約：http://infoest.dynu.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jun 22 12:12:58 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with local (return-path theom@chiark.greenend.org.uk) id 1Dl3AA-0001jS-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:12:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:12:58 +0100 From: Theo Markettos To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Spam on TeX list Message-ID: <20050622111258.GE5969@chiark.greenend.org.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-PGP-Key: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~theom/pubkey.asc Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:37:39PM +0200, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > Hi, > > is something wrong with the TeX list? How can these "Torture'Hell" > messages with a > From: > header ever appear on the list? Surely, a list should be configured in > such a way that only members can post and this address - the list's own > posting address - is certain to not be on the list. [replying to Martin's private mail via the list since this is of wider interest] I don't agree with that - if I want to report a bug I shouldn't have to subscribe to the list. In this case the list is set up with quite stringent filters which block 90% of spam at the SMTP stage and also only accepts messages that are explicitly To: or CC: the list. But whilst this is the first spam to the list in 6 months, no spam filters are foolproof. It's unfortunately a repetitive spam. So I've done the next best thing which is for only members to have posting rights, and anyone else posting gets held for moderation. I've also disabled the spam filters since they're not necessary if the list is closed. If you post from a non-subscribed address when I approve the message I'll add you to the list of authorised senders so you can then post freely in future. Note this may happen because your From: or Sender: headers aren't the same as the address you've subscribed with, even if they end up in the same mailbox. Mailman doesn't allow me to set a nice 'pending moderation' message explaining all this so don't be confused if it tells you 'the list is moderated' or something like that. Theo -- Theo Markettos theo@markettos.org.uk Clare Hall, Cambridge atm26@cam.ac.uk CB3 9AL, UK http://www.markettos.org.uk/ From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jul 02 15:23:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from mailgate.shrewsbury.org.uk ([195.11.77.50]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.36 #1) with esmtp (return-path mhh@shrewsbury.org.uk) id 1I5MoV-00028s-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:23:39 +0100 Received: from mailgate.shrewsbury.org.uk ([195.11.77.50]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.99.iwj.5) with esmtp id sauce-10074-1183386-1; 02 Jul 2007 14:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (helo=staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk) by mailgate.shrewsbury.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1I5MoO-00063Q-OX for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:23:34 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk) by staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I5MoS-0000MB-Qt for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:23:36 +0100 Received: from 192.168.24.172 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mhh) by staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:23:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3143.192.168.24.172.1183386216.squirrel@staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:23:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Tex and Latex on RISC OS From: mhh@shrewsbury.org.uk To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Checked: CLAMAV on StaffMail X-Scan-Signature: 8df04c1cf463b3de8cfaa1d38cf9d13b X-Virus-Checked2: Virus checked at entry X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-disclaimer: This EMAIL has not been examined and the contents may not reflect the views of Shrewsbury School X-complaints_to: Please direct complaints to postmaster@shrewsbury.org.uk enclosing the full message AND HEADERS X-Virus-Checked: at mailgate.shrewsbury.org.uk X-Spam-Scanned: mailgate.shrewsbury.org.uk 1I5MoO-00063Q-OX 3b7ec0b14a51e89c3ea679a2b6035ee6 Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi folks, I've joined this list because I am trying to find out what the current state of play is with regards to Tec and Latex on RISC OS. I have just generated a Tex file from TechWriter (I have the most up to date version). This I can view on RISC OS using the application !DVI to convert it to a dvi file. This same dvi file renders fine on a windows wachine using something called YAP. However when I emailed the original Tex file to a friend he could not get in and edit it. I suspect this is because he actually wants a Latex file. Can TechWriter Tex files be viewed using Windows ? (If so, what package do I use ? ) How do I provide him with a Latex file that he can edit ? (I'm hoping I can convert the Tex file to a Latex one) Reards, Martin Hansen. From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Jul 03 09:39:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.36 #1) with esmtp (return-path s.w.ellacott@brighton.ac.uk) id 1I5dvS-00037A-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:39:58 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.8.99.iwj.5) with esmtp id sauce-2371-1183451-1; 03 Jul 2007 08:39:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20070703083952.XVKW13.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:39:52 +0100 Received: from Iyonix.s.w.ellacott.ntlworld.com ([81.106.123.221]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20070703083952.PUBO26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Iyonix.s.w.ellacott.ntlworld.com>; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:39:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Tex and Latex on RISC OS To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Cc: mhh@shrewsbury.org.uk From: Steve Ellacott X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:40:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3143.192.168.24.172.1183386216.squirrel@staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <3143.192.168.24.172.1183386216.squirrel@staffmail.shrewsbury.org.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: In message <3143.192.168.24.172.1183386216.squirrel@staffmail.shrewsbu ry.org.uk> mhh@shrewsbury.org.uk wrote: > However when I emailed the original Tex file to a friend he could not get > in and edit it. > I suspect this is because he actually wants a Latex file. > > Can TechWriter Tex files be viewed using Windows ? > (If so, what package do I use ? ) It should be OK. IIRC, mikTeX is the best Windows package. Your friend will need to look up how to use a TeX rather than LaTeX file, but it should be possible. All TeX packages use the same core code (and even have the same bugs!). Ten years ago I edited a book in LaTeX on my RISC PC, using Artworks to read and write epsf graphics. There were no compatibility problems at all, other than getting the directory structure right. > > How do I provide him with a Latex file that he can edit ? > (I'm hoping I can convert the Tex file to a Latex one) > Some of us have been trying for years to persuade Martin to get Techwriter to export LaTeX, but there always seem to be higher priorities. Meanwhile I can supply you with a Perl script that makes a reasonable (but far from perfect) job of converting Techwriter TeX into LaTeX. Email me privately if you would like a copy. You will need to install Perl 5 on your machine if you have not already got it. I regularly use this script to write research papers. Steve -- Steve Ellacott, Computing, Mathematical and Information Sciences, University of Brighton, Moulsecoomb, BN2 4GJ, UK Tel: 01273 885845 Office: 01273 642544 Fax: 01273 642405 WWW: http://www.it.brighton.ac.uk/staff/swe From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri May 15 16:37:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Received: from mailout02.server-system.net ([64.207.129.77]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.36 #1) with esmtp (return-path serveradmin@biggventures.com) id 1M4zTg-0008Kv-00 for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:37:40 +0100 X-SAUCE-Notice: (chiark.greenend.org.uk) Irritated 7552ms (delays likely) with mailout02.server-system.net [64.207.129.77] Received: from mailout02.server-system.net ([64.207.129.77]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0) with esmtp id sauce-17664-1242401-1; 15 May 2009 15:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from n15.c04.mtsvc.net ([72.47.228.15]) by mailout02.server-system.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M4wI4-0003my-6t for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 15 May 2009 05:13:28 -0700 Received: from biggventures.com by n15.c04.mtsvc.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M4wH1-0001CS-Oh for riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 15 May 2009 05:12:23 -0700 X-MT-MESSAGEID: J9Ti9BLE4vQSxOL0E= To: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: kothari.vishal@gmail.com is inviting you to www.biggsport.com From: kothari.vishal@gmail.com Content-Type:text/html Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:12:23 -0700 Sender: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: riscos-tex-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-BeenThere: riscos-tex@chiark.greenend.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: TeX on RISC OS machines List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive:

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