[Nomic]Proposals 301-310

Jonathan D. Amery jdamery at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Tue Jul 18 00:23:39 2000


On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Mike Pitt wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jul 2000, Duncan Richer wrote:
> 
> > Proposal 303 - Jonathan Amery
> > More flexibility in proposal success
> > 
> > Amend Rule 201 by replacing the word 'The' with the text 'Unless specified
> > elsewhere in the rules the'.
> 
> Having seen the discussion I think this should be voted down and a less
> ambiguous wording proposed.

 Nah... :)
 
> > Proposal 304 - Jonathan Amery
> > Quick Start
> > The required number of votes for a proposal to enact a rule is half of the
> > legal votes cast on it.
> 
> Why is it called Quick Start?

 So that rules get enacted quicker.  I was intending to put a time-lapse
clause in, but forgot... (oops)

> Other people seem to think this is a bad thing.  What sort of effect could
> it have?
> 
> > Proposal 305 - Jonathan Amery
> > Any rule which has an effect on a Player within some time of them joining
> > the game, or on joining the game, affects Players who were already Players
> > when the rule was enacted as if they joined the game at the point at which
> > the rule was enacted.
> 
> I think an unless otherwise stated is needed here, for example we may want
> to decide later in the game to award more than 125 square miles of land to
> newcomers to balance them out for starting late.

 Rules can always explicitly override it (Rule 204).

> Of course we could change this rule then, but I think rejecting it and
> including that change now would be a better course.

 And slow.

> > Every Player, upon joining the game, gains the right to stake 125 cubic
> > miles of land.
> > The staking of land is only permitted as regulated in the rules.
> 
> This does give us something to play with, but do we really want to play
> Monopoly?

 Who says we're talking monopoly? <grins>

> > Proposal 310 - Jonathan Amery
> > At the end of each calender week each Player who legally voted on every
> > proposal that ended its voting period within the previous week gains 10
> > points.
> We should reduce the offered points.  Encouragement may be good but 10
> points is quite high (the reward for a succesful proposal).  I'd say 5 is
> more reasonable.

 I guess it depends how many points are floating around, really.
 
> Would sending an explicit abstain be counted as a vote?  What about (were
> I to go on holiday) if I were to send in a request to vote for/against all
> proposals?

 I think that that's agains the rules.
 
-- 
Jonathan Amery.      Now there's a light at the end of the tunnel,
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