From magnus at therning.org Sun Jul 1 08:16:17 2007 From: magnus at therning.org (Magnus Therning) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:16:17 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] [lugradio@gmail.com: LUG Radio Live Exhibition] In-Reply-To: <1183243646.6331.48.camel@deadeye.i.decadent.org.uk> References: <1183243646.6331.48.camel@deadeye.i.decadent.org.uk> Message-ID: <20070701071617.GB2601@die.therning.org> --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 23:47:26 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 13:09 +0100, Paul Sladen wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> > I'm looking for volunteers to help represent Debian at the Lugradio >>=20 >> I should be around, at least for the Saturday; what's the t-shirt stock >> situation like following Debconf? Where do they need transporting from? > >If other people are interested in going and running a stand, Nattie and >I can come by car from Cambridge and bring Ts (and people). I'm also driving from Cambridge. No space for people I'm afraid but if Ts need transporting there's some room in the boot. That is if you trust a non-debian-developer with them... ;-) /M --=20 Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus@therning.org Jabber: magnus.therning@gmail.com http://therning.org/magnus --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGh1TBiMWTaatN+6QRAn+/AJ9QARDbeZMCRQIbj6pxiNfdH+T8EACgnS6b 7tzOaLhOs8UC5arHxh/UlNg= =LGbu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF-- From debian-uk at paul.sladen.org Mon Jul 2 16:50:14 2007 From: debian-uk at paul.sladen.org (Paul Sladen) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:50:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Debian-uk] Distributed Pancakes (DFSG @ 10years) Thursday/LugRadio? Message-ID: The European constitution may have been finally killed last week, but the foundation of the Debian one lives on. The Social contract is nearly a teenager: http://wiki.debian.org/SocialContractTenYears To celebrate this, the Finns (and now the Germans) have started arranging a distributed pancake party. The anniversary is happening on Thursday, so my initial thought was instead of burning CD media, we can burn pancakes. Perhaps we can sell Free pancakes for the same price as Free CDs :) (Pancake creation probably need a camping stove, flour, eggs, milk, water, salt, sugar, lemon juice, chocolate sauce... ) Or we could just have a party somewhere with beer. Any suggestions?---I'm back from Finland and in the UK this week ...wouldn't want to miss out. -Paul -- Why do one side of a triangle when you can do all three. Glasgow, GB From steve at einval.com Mon Jul 2 21:09:33 2007 From: steve at einval.com (Steve McIntyre) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Re: [lugradio@gmail.com: LUG Radio Live Exhibition] In-Reply-To: <20070622091740.GL6786@einval.com> References: <20070622091740.GL6786@einval.com> Message-ID: <20070702200933.GZ6428@einval.com> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 10:17:40AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >I'm looking for volunteers to help represent Debian at the Lugradio >show this year. I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it due to a >prior engagement, so help would be appreciated! OK, I've now confirmed that I can't make it - I'm definitely going to be busy elsewhere at the weekend. :-( So, thanks for all the offers of help people - it looks like you're going to have to cope without me! You'll also have to go without T-shirts, as I just about sold out at Debconf and there's not enough time between now and next weekend to get more made. The LRL crowd last year weren't all that interested in T-shirts anyway, so it'd be nice to get on and demo stuff instead. Ideas welcome! :-) I'll forward on the details that I've had about the show. Apologies for leaving you all in the lurch. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I... From steve at einval.com Mon Jul 2 21:11:05 2007 From: steve at einval.com (Steve McIntyre) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:11:05 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] [adam@adamsweet.org: LUG Radio Live Exhibition] Message-ID: <20070702201105.GA6428@einval.com> The details I promised. ----- Forwarded message from Adam Sweet ----- From: Adam Sweet Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:23:03 +0100 To: steve@einval.com Subject: LUG Radio Live Exhibition X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_30,EXCUSE_1,PGP_SIGNATURE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings to all of our fantastic exhibitors :) You're receiving this email because you have agreed to be part of the exhibition are at LUG Radio Live 2007. That's great :) Ok, so here's the deal: Optionally arrive Friday night and meet everyone for beers in Wolverhampton. You'll need accommodation for the weekend anyway. The venue is The Hogs Head pub in Wolverhampton city centre: http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=l&=&q=hogshead&near=wv1&btnG=Search+Businesses People meet from around 8pm onwards. It's on the corner of Stafford Street and Broad Street. Arrive at the venue, The Light House, Saturday morning around 8am. Ugh. Rough yes, but I'll be there earlier than that :( Directions: http://www.lugradio.org/live/2007/index.php/Travel_Information You can call me on 07761 153100 should you get lost on the day or when trying to find the Hogs Head on Friday night. We have someone doing exhibitor liaison so you should ask for Dave Morley when you arrive and you'll be given an exhibitors badge. Set up your stand in good time as the doors will open at 10:30am. There will be lots of people charging around trying to get things done so it will take a while. Take a look at: http://www.lugradio.org/live/2007/schedule.html to see how the days will be arranged. People will be returning to their accommodation around 6-6:30pm during which time you need to pack your stand down in preparation for the evening's festivities as the same venue will be hosting a LRL party on Saturday night to which you are invited of course. Arrive around the same time Sunday morning to put your stand back up, maybe a little later as you will know what you're doing from the previous day. The rest of the day will be as per the schedule. Pack down afterwards. You can either then hang around and meet the hardcore of us at one of the hotels, I think it's the Quality Inn, aka Quality Chin as per the map; or you can say farewell and head home exhausted knowing that you had a great weekend, met some fantastic people and did your product or project justice. As an exhibitor, you will be given a table in the exhibition area and should bring with you whatever you wish to show off to show the legion of smelly Linux geeks who will be browsing your stand. It would be a good idea to bring some stuff with you to show off along with stickers, books, reading material, whatever you like. The tables are the size of a pasting table, you may be able to take up more space if it's available. Power will be available but as always, I recommend bringing enough power extensions and multi-plug boards with you to power your stand. I think that's about it :) Get back in touch if I've missed anything important. Should you not be able to make it to the event after all, please let us know as soon as possible on this email address. We look forward to seeing you on the 7th and 8th for a great weekend! Regards, Adam Sweet - LUG Radio. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGh8bXRi1ZcmvD37cRAnRgAJ9ZgXCt7tECvu8XJHsuzmftTXTnEACdGpBl ax0Ow6WZDofumejtF/GkJS4= =eDqe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer From david at planetwatson.co.uk Tue Jul 3 22:34:32 2007 From: david at planetwatson.co.uk (David Watson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:34:32 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Re: [lugradio@gmail.com: LUG Radio Live Exhibition] In-Reply-To: <20070702200933.GZ6428@einval.com> References: <20070622091740.GL6786@einval.com> <20070702200933.GZ6428@einval.com> Message-ID: <200707032234.48274.david@planetwatson.co.uk> --nextPart5534556.roIjC0Qe5s Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 02 July 2007 21:09:33 Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 10:17:40AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >I'm looking for volunteers to help represent Debian at the Lugradio > >show this year. I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it due to a > >prior engagement, so help would be appreciated! > > OK, I've now confirmed that I can't make it - I'm definitely going to > be busy elsewhere at the weekend. :-( > > So, thanks for all the offers of help people - it looks like you're > going to have to cope without me! You'll also have to go without > T-shirts, as I just about sold out at Debconf and there's not enough > time between now and next weekend to get more made. The LRL crowd last > year weren't all that interested in T-shirts anyway, so it'd be nice > to get on and demo stuff instead. Ideas welcome! :-) I can probably sort out a computer and monitor to bring along, I can have a= =20 fresh etch install on it. =2D-=20 David Watson - Debian GNU/Linux Developer david@planetwatson.co.uk, dwatson@debian.org Jabber: dwatson@planetwatson.co.uk Web: http://planetwatson.co.uk/blog --nextPart5534556.roIjC0Qe5s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGisD4Deh5nqfWrnkRAk6zAJ4mPdGr8IYzdIOryQK+M5Cl/wjV0ACg2kW/ eVTHGrmszjbpVkqRWvKtuyw= =VNTf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5534556.roIjC0Qe5s-- From david at planetwatson.co.uk Wed Jul 4 18:37:19 2007 From: david at planetwatson.co.uk (David Watson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:37:19 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Re: [lugradio@gmail.com: LUG Radio Live Exhibition] In-Reply-To: <200707032234.48274.david@planetwatson.co.uk> References: <20070622091740.GL6786@einval.com> <20070702200933.GZ6428@einval.com> <200707032234.48274.david@planetwatson.co.uk> Message-ID: <200707041837.19220.david@planetwatson.co.uk> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 22:34:32 David Watson wrote: > On Monday 02 July 2007 21:09:33 Steve McIntyre wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 10:17:40AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > >I'm looking for volunteers to help represent Debian at the Lugradio > > >show this year. I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it due to a > > >prior engagement, so help would be appreciated! > > > > OK, I've now confirmed that I can't make it - I'm definitely going to > > be busy elsewhere at the weekend. :-( > > > > So, thanks for all the offers of help people - it looks like you're > > going to have to cope without me! You'll also have to go without > > T-shirts, as I just about sold out at Debconf and there's not enough > > time between now and next weekend to get more made. The LRL crowd last > > year weren't all that interested in T-shirts anyway, so it'd be nice > > to get on and demo stuff instead. Ideas welcome! :-) > > I can probably sort out a computer and monitor to bring along, I can have a > fresh etch install on it. An update: Today my Linksys NSLU2 arrived, I am planning on using this to host my local Debian network mirror. I am installing Debian on it as I type this, I can bring it with me (providing I finish getting it ready), along with a PC and TFT monitor, a switch to connect them and all of the cables I need. Unless anyone has any other ideas we could use these to show Debian running both machines. -- David Watson - Debian GNU/Linux Developer david@planetwatson.co.uk, dwatson@debian.org Jabber: dwatson@planetwatson.co.uk Web: http://planetwatson.co.uk/blog From steve at einval.com Fri Jul 13 18:04:01 2007 From: steve at einval.com (Steve McIntyre) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:04:01 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Re: OMGWTFBBQ 2007! In-Reply-To: <20070626131740.GB16764@einval.com> References: <20070626131740.GB16764@einval.com> Message-ID: <20070713170401.GR6314@einval.com> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:17:40PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >As several people have already figured out for themselves, I'm >planning to have a barbecue / party at my place in Cambridge again(!) >this August Bank Holiday weekend, the 25th to 27th of August. More >details are in the wiki[1], including when and where and how to blag >some free crash space. If you'd like to come along, please sign up so >we have an idea of numbers beforehand. > >FTAOD, there will *not* be sponsored travel for this event. :-P > >[1] http://wiki.earth.li/DebianParty2007 It seems there are quite a few people travelling to Cambridge for this, and it looks like just about all the space in my house is now taken. Ditto for Ben and Nattie. Can anybody else volunteer some nearby-ish crash space that weekend please? Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com < liw> everything I know about UK hotels I learned from "Fawlty Towers" From wdg at debian.org Mon Jul 16 21:07:04 2007 From: wdg at debian.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:07:04 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Fwd: Debian Bug #300328 - English locale bug in OpenOffice In-Reply-To: <469A6866.3080904@debian.org> References: <469A6866.3080904@debian.org> Message-ID: <30e46b3d0707161307v26b9bd6fwd6d86db827830352@mail.gmail.com> Maybe other folks in the UK can get to it first. (Sorry, don't have the connectivity at the mo to try OO.o). d ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lior Kaplan Date: 15-Jul-2007 19:33 Subject: Debian Bug #300328 - English locale bug in OpenOffice Cc: 300328-quiet@bugs.debian.org Hi Guys, As UK DDs - could you help with confirming this bugs on your system with recent version of OO.org? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=300328 You might already have the right configuration of your systems. Thanks. -- Lior Kaplan kaplan@debian.org GPG fingerprint: C644 D0B3 92F4 8FE4 4662 B541 1558 9445 99E8 1DA0 From codehelp at debian.org Mon Jul 16 21:35:57 2007 From: codehelp at debian.org (Neil Williams) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:35:57 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Fwd: Debian Bug #300328 - English locale bug in OpenOffice In-Reply-To: <30e46b3d0707161307v26b9bd6fwd6d86db827830352@mail.gmail.com> References: <469A6866.3080904@debian.org> <30e46b3d0707161307v26b9bd6fwd6d86db827830352@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070716213557.2536c150.codehelp@debian.org> --Signature=_Mon__16_Jul_2007_21_35_57_+0100_waDNH20=m0vAX_3P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:07:04 +0100 "Daniel Glassey" wrote: > Maybe other folks in the UK can get to it first. (Sorry, don't have > the connectivity at the mo to try OO.o). Bug report: > I have recently installed Debian Sarge with English (Britain). I did > not install any US English locales. My locale is set to en_GB.UTF-8. >=20 > I just loaded OpenOffice.org Writer and it is defaulting to US spelling. > I wonder if you are already aware of this bug? I have to manually > change the locale of each document to be English from US English. > I do have the English dictionary installed as well as US English. $ dpkg -l 'myspell*' | grep ii ii myspell-en-gb 1:2.3.0~src680m219-2 English_british dictionary for m= yspell ii myspell-en-us 1:2.3.0~src680m219-2 English_american dictionary for = myspell (English (USA) is selectable in OOoWriter but not the default). openoffice.org-writer 2.2.1-5 (sid) $ locale -a C en_GB en_GB.iso88591 en_GB.iso885915 en_GB.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 POSIX New document, English (UK) already preselected under Options|Language. Correctly allows spelling of 'colour' and correctly highlights 'color'. AFAICT, this bug does not appear in OOoWriter >=3D 2.2.1-5 and I haven't personally noticed any problems like this in earlier versions of OOoWriter in Sid but I cannot be sure what version OOo was current when I first started using it in Sid. --=20 Neil Williams =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ --Signature=_Mon__16_Jul_2007_21_35_57_+0100_waDNH20=m0vAX_3P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGm9aviAEJSii8s+MRAud7AJ9jXllpu80vIUoKyKBB0LAh6ZEAEgCeJ2Gh e4tsSqSZ/YIPP6EdzUZKtBc= =4CO8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__16_Jul_2007_21_35_57_+0100_waDNH20=m0vAX_3P-- From simon at technocool.net Mon Jul 16 21:28:11 2007 From: simon at technocool.net (Simon Waters) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:28:11 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Fwd: Debian Bug #300328 - English locale bug in OpenOffice In-Reply-To: <30e46b3d0707161307v26b9bd6fwd6d86db827830352@mail.gmail.com> References: <469A6866.3080904@debian.org> <30e46b3d0707161307v26b9bd6fwd6d86db827830352@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469BD4DB.5090103@technocool.net> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig69E25E146A5F6AB3506AF185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Glassey wrote: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D300328 I have Debian Sid (unstable), with OpenOffice and the UK English UTF8 locale the submitter has. To get consistent UK spelling in OpenOffice you have to go to; "Tools>Options>Language Settings" and set the "English (UK)" as the default language setting for documents. I guess if you choose this (or any UK) locale in the Debian installer the correct behaviour would be for OpenOffice (or its installer) to notice, and use this information, so I think the behaviour is a "bug". I doubt it is a UK locale specific bug, it would need someone with a non-English default locale to confirm this. It isn't necessary to repeatedly change this setting as the submitter describes, if the steps above are followed. So it may not be as severe as believed. Hope this makes sense, and I haven't miss understood anything. Simon (not a Debian Developer). --------------enig69E25E146A5F6AB3506AF185 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Encryption...is a powerful defensive weapon for free people. Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGm9TbGFXfHI9FVgYRAqmmAJ43Lr+MjAGXIPFR2C9X2RYm5ANpagCg0f8c r+AR5nWnyJd0PfZEgq9KL6Q= =Pq5E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig69E25E146A5F6AB3506AF185-- From codehelp at debian.org Tue Jul 17 09:42:55 2007 From: codehelp at debian.org (Neil Williams) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:42:55 +0100 Subject: [Debian-uk] Fwd: Debian Bug #300328 - English locale bug in OpenOffice In-Reply-To: <469BD4DB.5090103@technocool.net> References: <469A6866.3080904@debian.org> <30e46b3d0707161307v26b9bd6fwd6d86db827830352@mail.gmail.com> <469BD4DB.5090103@technocool.net> Message-ID: <20070717094255.e4e8a3f9.codehelp@debian.org> --Signature=_Tue__17_Jul_2007_09_42_55_+0100_MI5/HPWvT+51kj_R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:28:11 +0100 Simon Waters wrote: > Daniel Glassey wrote: > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D300328 >=20 > I have Debian Sid (unstable), with OpenOffice and the UK English UTF8 > locale the submitter has. >=20 > To get consistent UK spelling in OpenOffice you have to go to; >=20 > "Tools>Options>Language Settings" and set the "English (UK)" as the > default language setting for documents. >=20 > I guess if you choose this (or any UK) locale in the Debian installer > the correct behaviour would be for OpenOffice (or its installer) to > notice, and use this information, so I think the behaviour is a "bug".=20 ? This is the opposite of the behaviour that I found - OOo picked up the en_GB locale as a default without any intervention from myself. It was only when investigating this bug that I even went into Tools->Options->Language Settings. > I > doubt it is a UK locale specific bug, it would need someone with a > non-English default locale to confirm this. Or just change the locale at the login manager. (May need some tweaks in System->Administration->Login Window in Gnome or the equivalent under other window managers.) > It isn't necessary to repeatedly change this setting as the submitter > describes, if the steps above are followed. So it may not be as severe > as believed. It could also be related to how the locale is set - some methods (like .xsession or .bashrc) are incomplete. GnuCash is very sensitive to these things, I would be interested to know if gnucash picks up pounds sterling as the default locale currency (without needing to override it) on systems where this bug apppears in Ooo. (No matter which currency is set by the user, gnucash still shows the currency that has been detected as an option.) --=20 Neil Williams =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ --Signature=_Tue__17_Jul_2007_09_42_55_+0100_MI5/HPWvT+51kj_R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGnIERiAEJSii8s+MRAhXOAKDE7drGoeG74Q5G79zQ5F4A+qxrNQCfRUFi HAllE+wvvCBmlhFSdX8wtAQ= =YgFQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__17_Jul_2007_09_42_55_+0100_MI5/HPWvT+51kj_R--