From steve at einval.com Thu Feb 8 22:13:25 2007 From: steve at einval.com (Steve McIntyre) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:13:25 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] Debian UK Treasurer's report for January 2007 Message-ID: <20070208221325.GL16654@einval.com> --KaGhPsiNaI6/sRd6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fairly quiet... For the period 1 January to 31 January 2007: (All figures in GBP) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Cash Income T-shirt sales 40.00 Donations 5.00 Cash Expenditure 0.00 NET CASH INCOME, January 2007 45.00 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D New assets 0.00 Assets disposed 3 Ts, cost price 29.39 NET ASSETS GAINED, January 2007 -29.39 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Balance as at 01 January 2007 Cash at the bank 737.36 178 Ts, cost price 1,383.40 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D TOTAL 2,120.76 Balance carried forward Cash at the bank 782.36 175 Ts, cost price 1,354.01 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D TOTAL 2,136.37 --=20 Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.= com Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed? --KaGhPsiNaI6/sRd6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFy6CFfDt5cIjHwfcRAseZAJ99a8AvXWzoLL4AGJrev4s+5CumkQCfc9+p 9wLe0kygf6F73siXKMLvHfk= =F2sR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KaGhPsiNaI6/sRd6-- From steve at einval.com Mon Feb 12 01:43:20 2007 From: steve at einval.com (Steve McIntyre) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:43:20 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] Etch T-shirts? In-Reply-To: <45B11451.9080800@technocool.net> References: <20070119134333.GC13812@einval.com> <20070119144519.GB11416@eyas.biff.org.uk> <45B11451.9080800@technocool.net> Message-ID: <20070212014320.GV16654@einval.com> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 06:56:17PM +0000, Simon Waters wrote: >Dave Holland wrote: >> >> I have no arty skill to help - sorry! > >Me neither, but in the time honoured free software tradition, I release; > >http://simonwaters.technocool.net/test/Etch-A-Sketch.svg > >.... and hope someone who actually knows what they are doing with >graphics tools can improve it. Hey it works with software, it should >work with t-shirt designs. > >It is an SVG file - so Inkscape is your first tool of choice, but it >views okay in Iceweasel now I made it smaller than the canvas it is on. >You might need some of the bizarre fonts I have installed ("apt-get" is >your friend). All the components are vector graphics, including the >traced version of the free use Debian swirl logo. > >Any resemblance to products of the Ohio Arts Company, or Pixar Animation >Studios, is because you guys are so cool! :-) You've *almost* got what I'm after; I'm hoping to do the swirl itself in etch-style blocks, but I've got no idea how to do that myself... :-/ I'm hoping to get these done *soon*, ideally in the next couple of days so Talking Ts can get them made for me in time for FOSDEM. Help!!! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed? From debian-uk at paul.sladen.org Mon Feb 12 12:11:10 2007 From: debian-uk at paul.sladen.org (Paul Sladen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:11:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Debian-uk] Etch T-shirts? In-Reply-To: <20070212014320.GV16654@einval.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 06:56:17PM +0000, Simon Waters wrote: > >Dave Holland wrote: > >http://simonwaters.technocool.net/test/Etch-A-Sketch.svg > You've *almost* got what I'm after; I'm hoping to do the swirl itself > in etch-style blocks, but I've got no idea how to do that myself... :-/ Pixelise, scale-up and then autotrace the resulting edge should do it. -Paul -- Why do one side of a triangle when you can do all three. Southampton, GB From debian-uk at paul.sladen.org Mon Feb 12 15:40:23 2007 From: debian-uk at paul.sladen.org (Paul Sladen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:40:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Debian-uk] Etch T-shirts? In-Reply-To: <20070212014320.GV16654@einval.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 06:56:17PM +0000, Simon Waters wrote: > > http://simonwaters.technocool.net/test/Etch-A-Sketch.svg > >.... and hope someone [..] can improve it. > You've *almost* got what I'm after; I'm hoping to do the swirl itself > in etch-style blocks, but I've got no idea how to do that myself... :-/ I spent a okay of hours on this and now I have: http://www.paul.sladen.org/expo/fosdem-2007/T-shirt-logos.html Suggestions welcomed! This can probably be made to work using any combination of red/white/black fabric, with the other two colours silk screened on top---though it might need some adjusting to ensure the result looks good with bleed. There's also quite alot of narrow lines on there (eg. text) which don't print aswell as large blocks of solid colour, I have already fatted the text up a little to try and help. There's likely some space at the bottom to place text, but if we don't specifically put the word 'etch' on it, then the design will continue to be sellable as a generic design. One possibility I consisted was giving the whole device a persective off to one side (being held at an angle to the viewer), which would give the picture depth and the knobs would then clearly stick out. -Paul -- Why do one side of a triangle when you can do all three. Southampton, GB From steve at einval.com Tue Feb 13 02:56:58 2007 From: steve at einval.com (Steve McIntyre) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:56:58 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] Etch T-shirts? In-Reply-To: References: <20070212014320.GV16654@einval.com> Message-ID: <20070213025658.GG16654@einval.com> On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 03:40:23PM +0000, Paul Sladen wrote: > >I spent a okay of hours on this and now I have: > > http://www.paul.sladen.org/expo/fosdem-2007/T-shirt-logos.html > >Suggestions welcomed! This can probably be made to work using any >combination of red/white/black fabric, with the other two colours silk >screened on top---though it might need some adjusting to ensure the result >looks good with bleed. > >There's also quite alot of narrow lines on there (eg. text) which don't >print aswell as large blocks of solid colour, I have already fatted the text >up a little to try and help. To be honest, I'd also be tempted to lose the shadow effects you've added. How does it look without them? Also, I'm still thinking of using a light grey ("ash") background; quite a few people have said they'd like that. So then we'd need red, white and black prints; that's fine. >There's likely some space at the bottom to place text, but if we don't >specifically put the word 'etch' on it, then the design will continue to be >sellable as a generic design. That doesn't bother me too much; this is meant to be an Etch special. :-) >One possibility I consisted was giving the whole device a persective off to >one side (being held at an angle to the viewer), which would give the >picture depth and the knobs would then clearly stick out. Might get a little too busy, tbh. And I need to get the artwork to TT today (Tuesday) if at all possible. Even then, we'll be pushing it to have them ready for FOSDEM. As always, many thanks for your efforts so far. Curse this useless non-artistic brain of mine... :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Into the distance, a ribbon of black Stretched to the point of no turning back From ajw05 at aber.ac.uk Fri Feb 16 14:58:14 2007 From: ajw05 at aber.ac.uk (Alan Woodland) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:58:14 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] Visit to Bradford Message-ID: <113B71D5-15B1-4035-83EB-71F58BF4E18A@aber.ac.uk> I find myself in Bradford between the 18th of Feb and the 9th of March. If anyone feels meeting up one evening for pub and key-signing let me know. Thanks, Alan From wdg at debian.org Thu Feb 22 15:47:54 2007 From: wdg at debian.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:47:54 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] fosdem Message-ID: <45DDBB2A.2040204@debian.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Due to unforseen circumstances I won't be able to make it this weekend. Is there anyone that is going that would like to take my place in the hostel? Regards, Daniel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF3bsq/offrSwPzRoRAnqGAJ9+1JoWtRm6C6wVeJqyk2A85cHWMgCgmVOO vfMjhv03sLFWhNo4AaOj/2k= =YN2I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wdg at debian.org Thu Feb 22 17:11:15 2007 From: wdg at debian.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:11:15 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] fosdem In-Reply-To: <20070222163922.GA2646@enricozini.org> References: <45DDBB2A.2040204@debian.org> <20070222163922.GA2646@enricozini.org> Message-ID: <30e46b3d0702220911q4c48b338m2661bcfe232f7194@mail.gmail.com> On 22/02/07, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 03:47:54PM +0000, Daniel Glassey wrote: > > > Due to unforseen circumstances I won't be able to make it this weekend. > > Is there anyone that is going that would like to take my place in the > > hostel? > > Me: the hostel screwed up my booking and booked me only for friday night > instead of friday to monday morning (despite telling me otherwise). I > can take your place and cancel my booking. Great :) Though remember that my booking is only Fri and Sat nights. I've changed the wiki accordingly. Regards, Daniel From enrico at enricozini.org Thu Feb 22 16:39:22 2007 From: enrico at enricozini.org (Enrico Zini) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:39:22 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] fosdem In-Reply-To: <45DDBB2A.2040204@debian.org> References: <45DDBB2A.2040204@debian.org> Message-ID: <20070222163922.GA2646@enricozini.org> --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 03:47:54PM +0000, Daniel Glassey wrote: > Due to unforseen circumstances I won't be able to make it this weekend. > Is there anyone that is going that would like to take my place in the > hostel? Me: the hostel screwed up my booking and booked me only for friday night instead of friday to monday morning (despite telling me otherwise). I can take your place and cancel my booking. I'll be in Cambridge tonight (at Steve's), somewhere after 22:30. I'll be on a train disconnected from the network before that. Ciao, Enrico --=20 GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBRd3HN5IuMvpOJqh9AQJVGAQAy0QEFatHvKxO/cPKJAobytTxnJUYoY0y b1JgKEVV35aMvElIHFXxEhi+X5yBFTE5Z8eXYLVBfNOrkuOBChPM+VY8RLYwfeSw NNnglfEf/HPxqgw6d9dwaodo341E4DTas1i9HSOKkd7a3UIoE06K2yYoPJLNymip zuV8ASkp5Yg= =xcNw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From enrico at enricozini.org Thu Feb 22 17:16:32 2007 From: enrico at enricozini.org (Enrico Zini) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:16:32 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] fosdem In-Reply-To: <30e46b3d0702220911q4c48b338m2661bcfe232f7194@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DDBB2A.2040204@debian.org> <20070222163922.GA2646@enricozini.org> <30e46b3d0702220911q4c48b338m2661bcfe232f7194@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070222171632.GA7351@enricozini.org> --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 05:11:15PM +0000, Daniel Glassey wrote: > Great :) Though remember that my booking is only Fri and Sat nights. > I've changed the wiki accordingly. Fantastic. I'll give you the money tonight, or let you have it through Steve. Ciao, Enrico --=20 GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBRd3P7ZIuMvpOJqh9AQK2OAP+J5l9QlxKWUccR/AFYzXt1OqEizHGIg/N W5C5GZt4+NFsOBbtozgNJPsVETpgbwAhxXQ3V0hnKfVC7EmZeiAATZStVnWBhGrH ilgxIRgruvQeF1wDZrSZlhYAGkTFVxxGAqqsfdAeVETdkRhU1MFDNYBAatBU+ie6 SMyw/VE/6no= =2tgb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From linux at codehelp.co.uk Wed Feb 28 13:14:53 2007 From: linux at codehelp.co.uk (Neil Williams) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:14:53 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures Message-ID: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_13_14_53_+0000_ZndDQY1rJzWtSndZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a quick query: What is the full list of 64bit CPU build architectures in Debian currently? i.e. if I ran `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` on each 64bit buildd, what list would I get? I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_13_14_53_+0000_ZndDQY1rJzWtSndZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5YBPiAEJSii8s+MRAkLkAJ9C/w2tJs+bA4VJIWIdAaOxwDWgNwCghlJ1 Lo7cLV8Aw7JOhRiwd53NK84= =mIb9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_13_14_53_+0000_ZndDQY1rJzWtSndZ-- From scott at netsplit.com Wed Feb 28 14:15:14 2007 From: scott at netsplit.com (Scott James Remnant) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> Message-ID: <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> --=-phO8zXZ4OkEuTNXbh31k Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:14 +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > Just a quick query: >=20 > What is the full list of 64bit CPU build architectures in Debian currentl= y? >=20 > i.e. if I ran `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` on each 64bit > buildd, what list would I get? >=20 > I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? >=20 /usr/share/dpkg/cputable Scott --=20 Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange things happen? Are you going round the twist? --=-phO8zXZ4OkEuTNXbh31k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBF5Y5yIexP3IStZ2wRAjyQAJ9cAKHoj+tqvoVmayJnIZ+47vx5wgCgjakf YT8TNqufzuSI68MX5tzHeJY= =P2hI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-phO8zXZ4OkEuTNXbh31k-- From linux at codehelp.co.uk Wed Feb 28 14:54:10 2007 From: linux at codehelp.co.uk (Neil Williams) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:54:10 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> Message-ID: <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_14_54_10_+0000_Vo.2ft2KLGe3ZXT5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:15:14 +0000 Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:14 +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > > Just a quick query: > > > > What is the full list of 64bit CPU build architectures in Debian currently? > > > > i.e. if I ran `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` on each 64bit > > buildd, what list would I get? > > > > I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? > > > /usr/share/dpkg/cputable Thanks, just that doesn't confirm which are 64bit - is it only these: x86_64 ia64 powerpc64 s390x ? what about alpha? -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_14_54_10_+0000_Vo.2ft2KLGe3ZXT5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5ZeViAEJSii8s+MRAkHRAJsHeQxQoX5xHU5lKYq7hytWV37/vwCg0Yzd hn1DtMFIFMIUBeZRoIrPXnc= =DhOX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_14_54_10_+0000_Vo.2ft2KLGe3ZXT5-- From scott at netsplit.com Wed Feb 28 15:54:12 2007 From: scott at netsplit.com (Scott James Remnant) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:54:12 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> Message-ID: <1172678052.7951.7.camel@quest.netsplit.com> --=-jkTLsOxl21fIEFa9sn6g Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:54 +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:15:14 +0000 > Scott James Remnant wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:14 +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > Just a quick query: > > > > > > What is the full list of 64bit CPU build architectures in Debian curr= ently? > > > > > > i.e. if I ran `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` on each 64bit > > > buildd, what list would I get? > > > > > > I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? > > > > > /usr/share/dpkg/cputable >=20 > Thanks, just that doesn't confirm which are 64bit - is it only these: > x86_64 ia64 powerpc64 s390x ? > what about alpha? >=20 Define "64bit" What actual characteristic are you looking for? Scott --=20 Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange things happen? Are you going round the twist? --=-jkTLsOxl21fIEFa9sn6g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBF5aWkIexP3IStZ2wRAk6rAJ9yeRl09nzE4uCrtWC6sWe6RaYSFwCfe2yh zlSy5uyQTbO31jgQ3jj5+Q8= =aOzO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jkTLsOxl21fIEFa9sn6g-- From linux at codehelp.co.uk Wed Feb 28 16:05:22 2007 From: linux at codehelp.co.uk (Neil Williams) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:05:22 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <1172678052.7951.7.camel@quest.netsplit.com> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172678052.7951.7.camel@quest.netsplit.com> Message-ID: <20070228160522.7beaafe2.linux@codehelp.co.uk> --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_16_05_22_+0000_t2qS3HH05nVW7FmO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:54:12 +0000 Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > > I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? > > > > > > > /usr/share/dpkg/cputable > > > > Thanks, just that doesn't confirm which are 64bit - is it only these: > > x86_64 ia64 powerpc64 s390x ? > > what about alpha? > > > Define "64bit" > > What actual characteristic are you looking for? Hmm, build_cpu really - I'm trying to solve RC bug #412102. DEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU ?= $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU) USE_64PARSER_CPUS = zx86_64z ifeq (,$(findstring z$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU)z,$(USE_64PARSER_CPUS))) MAKEFILE = Makefile.64 endif The original bug was a segfault on amd64 which I have fixed, I just don't want another bug to appear on another architecture that should also be using 64bit. -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_16_05_22_+0000_t2qS3HH05nVW7FmO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5ahEiAEJSii8s+MRAtnYAKCrWza+TotvCfk/1T3mNVbmBOa2OwCgr9J9 9UnjEGZwOBy2Kxy5zw7wTLI= =85W9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__28_Feb_2007_16_05_22_+0000_t2qS3HH05nVW7FmO-- From david at davidpashley.com Wed Feb 28 15:20:19 2007 From: david at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:20:19 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070228152018.GS17049@femme.catnip.org.uk> On Feb 28, 2007 at 14:54, Neil Williams praised the llamas by saying: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:15:14 +0000 > Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:14 +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > Just a quick query: > > > > > > What is the full list of 64bit CPU build architectures in Debian currently? > > > > > > i.e. if I ran `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` on each 64bit > > > buildd, what list would I get? > > > > > > I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? > > > > > /usr/share/dpkg/cputable > > Thanks, just that doesn't confirm which are 64bit - is it only these: > x86_64 ia64 powerpc64 s390x ? > what about alpha? > Alpha is 64. It's possible that sparc is 64 depending on how it's feeling today. > -- David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. From pm at debian.org Wed Feb 28 17:39:58 2007 From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:58 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <20070228160522.7beaafe2.linux@codehelp.co.uk> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172678052.7951.7.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228160522.7beaafe2.linux@codehelp.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070228173958.GA21455@thinkpad.nowster.org.uk> --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you can assume that you're going to be building on a system with the GNU C library... WORDSIZE=3D`perl -ne 'print "$1\n" if /^#define\s+__WORDSIZE\s+(\d+)/' /usr= /include/bits/wordsize.h` --=20 Paul Martin --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5b5t+gi+rt7UWRIRAgZVAJ9VdOU1EhQbMiVeTJFHNbZcC23kjACeMENX JeTDJympeOqkHp0eN7jQgXM= =JYWf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From thom at debian.org Wed Feb 28 20:03:40 2007 From: thom at debian.org (Thom May) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:03:40 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <20070228152018.GS17049@femme.catnip.org.uk> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <20070228152018.GS17049@femme.catnip.org.uk> Message-ID: <20070228200339.GC5930@amnesiac.heapspace.net> * David Pashley (david@davidpashley.com) wrote : > On Feb 28, 2007 at 14:54, Neil Williams praised the llamas by saying: > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:15:14 +0000 > > Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:14 +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > > > Just a quick query: > > > > > > > > What is the full list of 64bit CPU build architectures in Debian currently? > > > > > > > > i.e. if I ran `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` on each 64bit > > > > buildd, what list would I get? > > > > > > > > I run amd64, so I've got x86_64 - what are the rest? > > > > > > > /usr/share/dpkg/cputable > > > > Thanks, just that doesn't confirm which are 64bit - is it only these: > > x86_64 ia64 powerpc64 s390x ? > > what about alpha? > > > > Alpha is 64. It's possible that sparc is 64 depending on how it's > feeling today. Sparc is 64bit kernel and 32bit userland generally, since it's dog slow in 64bit :-) -Thom From ajw05 at aber.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 19:14:10 2007 From: ajw05 at aber.ac.uk (Alan Woodland) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:14:10 +0000 Subject: [Debian-uk] 64bit architectures In-Reply-To: <20070228152018.GS17049@femme.catnip.org.uk> References: <20070228131453.334bd402.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <1172672114.6983.2.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070228145410.528ad1de.linux@codehelp.co.uk> <20070228152018.GS17049@femme.catnip.org.uk> Message-ID: On 28 Feb 2007, at 15:20, David Pashley wrote: > Alpha is 64. It's possible that sparc is 64 depending on how it's > feeling today. I thought sparc wouldn't be 64 unless you called "gcc -m64" explicitly? Alan