From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Jun 18 22:17:02 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10v60U-00054x-00 (Debian); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:17:02 +0100
Received: from sadcompscis.demon.co.uk ([158.152.37.34] helo=lump.mossbank.org.uk)
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 10v60T-000JI6-0B
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:17:01 +0000
Received: from hammer.mossbank.org.uk [10.13.0.5] (mail)
	by lump.mossbank.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 10v609-00029L-00; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:16:41 +0100
Received: from steve by hammer.mossbank.org.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 10v60J-0000BD-00; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:16:51 +0100
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:16:50 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@hammer.mossbank.org.uk
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: [Debian-uk] First post! Woo!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990618221358.323P-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

*grin* No, don't worry - this is hopefully not going to devolve into a
slashdot-style zoo quite that quickly...

So, who's going to the UKUUG Linux 99 thing next weekend then? And does
anybody know of any decent accommodation near the venue other than the
Business School people? I only registered for the conference itself
yesterday and when I rang up today to get a room I was told they're fully
booked... <sigh>

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                   stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/>My home page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 +------------------
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  |Finger for PGP key




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Jun 18 23:06:05 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from zenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.15.138] (mail)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10v6lv-0005S0-00 (Debian); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:06:04 +0100
Received: from dave by zenda.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 1.92 #5)
	  id 10v6OI-0000Dv-00 (Debian); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:41:38 +0100
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:41:38 +0100
From: Dave Holland <dave@zenda.demon.co.uk>
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] First post! Woo!
Message-ID: <19990618224137.A799@zenda.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990618221358.323P-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990618221358.323P-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>; from Steve McIntyre on Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 10:16:50PM +0100

On Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 10:16:50PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> So, who's going to the UKUUG Linux 99 thing next weekend then?

Not me -- I didn't find out about it 'til today (and I'm busy next
weekend anyway...)

> And does
> anybody know of any decent accommodation near the venue other than the
> Business School people?

My parents live about 25 minutes' bus ride away, but somehow I don't
think they're up to the prospect of 'n' geeks descending upon their
house looking for crash space. Sorry guys!

> I only registered for the conference itself
> yesterday and when I rang up today to get a room I was told they're fully
> booked... <sigh>

Bummer. There are quite a lot of dodgy-to-reasonable B&B's on some of
the main bus routes out of the city centre. You could do worse than
phone up the tourist information office.

Will you send the list a report on the proceedings?

Cheers,
Dave
-- 
Dave Holland | dave@zenda.demon.co.uk | http://www.zenda.demon.co.uk/dave/



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jun 19 14:48:13 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.1] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10vLTh-0001Zo-00 (Debian); Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:13 +0100
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-05-39.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.229.103])
	by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13933
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:11 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 3770 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 13:48:10 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 13:48:10 -0000
Received: (qmail 1762 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 13:48:09 -0000
Received: from palm.hands.com (mail@10.195.34.11)
  by sheikh-dmz.hands.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 13:48:09 -0000
Received: from localhost
	([127.0.0.1] helo=hands.com ident=phil)
	by palm.hands.com with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1 (Debian))
	id 10vLTd-0000ps-00; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:09 +0100
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Cc: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: [Debian-uk] Debian T-Shirts at Linux '99
X-URL: http://www.hands.com/~phil/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:09 +0100
Message-ID: <3215.929800089@hands.com>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
X-RBL-Warning: See http://www.orbs.org/blocked.cgi. Your mailserver is in the ORBS database as an insecure email relay. This is a generic text

Hi,

I've just printed out the new official logo, at A4 size, and it looks pretty 
good (given the abilities of my Deskjet 560C) so I thought I'd make some 
T-Shirts with it.

I'll just be getting them photocopy/ironed onto XL white t-shirts, which end 
up costing about nine quid --- from past experience this can look reasonably 
good.

I'm just off to do it now, and if the first one looks any good, I'll probably 
get ten made, to sell at cost.  If you're interested, mail me, so I can gauge 
demand.

Of course, the license might not allow anyone not running Debian on their brain to wear the T-Shirt with an official logo on it ...

Cheers, Phil.

P.S.  I don't seem to be having much luck subscribing to this list, so please CC me.  Steve, could you add me please, since I'm not getting the mail promised by the subscription page.





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jun 21 21:09:15 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from avalon.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.7] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10wANX-0006wa-00 (Debian); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:09:15 +0100
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-00-38.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.38])
	by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15890
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:09:12 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 21562 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1999 20:09:09 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 20:09:08 -0000
Received: (qmail 18165 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1999 20:09:07 -0000
Received: from palm.hands.com (mail@10.195.34.11)
  by sheikh-dmz.hands.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 20:09:07 -0000
Received: from localhost
	([127.0.0.1] helo=hands.com ident=phil)
	by palm.hands.com with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1 (Debian))
	id 10wANP-00015j-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:09:07 +0100
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk>
Cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Debian T-Shirts at Linux '99 
In-Reply-To: Message from David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk> 
   of "Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:03:44 BST." <376C21D0.612F678C@sundayta.co.uk> 
X-URL: http://www.hands.com/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:09:07 +0100
Message-ID: <4198.929995747@hands.com>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

> Phil,
> 
> I'll order two (one for me and one for Erik).  Probably more later for
> hand outs at training courses.

I have a feeling that the use of the ``official'' logo means that you cannot 
give them out at training courses,  because that would be deemed commercial 
use (maybe).

Joey told me that Witchert told him that the official logo can be worn by 
Debian developers (possibly only when on Debian business), so he (Joey) came 
up with this for use on T-Shirts to sell/give away:

  http://www.infodrom.north.de/Infodrom/shirts/debian-lt99.jpg

Anyway, I've made 10 T-shirts with the official logo:

  http://www.spinnaker.de/debian/logo/offVertColor.eps

blown up to A4 size and printed onto white XL T-shirts (of which I'm keeping 
two), so that should be enough for the developers that are turning up at the 
UKUUG thing.  BTW They cost me seven quid each, and they've come out 
reasonably well IMO.

My printer isn't up to printing Joey's design at a large size, because the 
black will make the paper soggy.  Also, we'd need to get a postscript version 
of the same for it to look any good.  It's a shame, because it would be nice 
to have some Debian paraphernalia to sell.  Anyone else got any ideas ?

Cheers, Phil.




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jun 21 23:28:29 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10wCYH-00084j-00 (Debian); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:28:29 +0100
Received: from sadcompscis.demon.co.uk ([158.152.37.34] helo=lump.mossbank.org.uk)
	by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 10wCYF-0000Z6-0C
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:28:28 +0000
Received: from hammer.mossbank.org.uk [10.13.0.5] (mail)
	by lump.mossbank.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 10wBjF-00021W-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:35:46 +0100
Received: from steve by hammer.mossbank.org.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 10wBjN-00048S-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:35:53 +0100
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:35:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@hammer.mossbank.org.uk
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] First post! Woo!
In-Reply-To: <19990618224137.A799@zenda.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990621223429.323a-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Dave Holland wrote:

>My parents live about 25 minutes' bus ride away, but somehow I don't
>think they're up to the prospect of 'n' geeks descending upon their
>house looking for crash space. Sorry guys!

*grin*

>> I only registered for the conference itself
>> yesterday and when I rang up today to get a room I was told they're fully
>> booked... <sigh>
>
>Bummer. There are quite a lot of dodgy-to-reasonable B&B's on some of
>the main bus routes out of the city centre. You could do worse than
>phone up the tourist information office.

Hmmm. I may just drive back to Cambridge and drive in again on the
Saturday morning; it'll be cheaper anyway.

>Will you send the list a report on the proceedings?

Pester me and I may remember... :-) It looks like there'll be plenty of
Debian people there, anyway.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                   stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk
"It's actually quite entertaining to watch ag129 prop his foot up on
 the desk so he can get a better aim."          [ seen in ucam.chat ]
Finger for PGP key




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Jun 22 18:10:04 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from avalon.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.7] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10wU3f-0002kw-00 (Debian); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:10:03 +0100
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-03-12.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.204])
	by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00462
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:07:30 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 1617 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 17:06:23 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 17:06:23 -0000
Received: (qmail 23088 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 17:06:22 -0000
Received: from palm.hands.com (mail@10.195.34.11)
  by sheikh.hands.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 17:06:22 -0000
Received: from localhost
	([127.0.0.1] helo=hands.com ident=phil)
	by palm.hands.com with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1 (Debian))
	id 10wU06-00048V-00; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:06:22 +0100
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk>
cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Debian T-Shirts at Linux '99 
In-Reply-To: Message from David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk> 
   of "Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:22:16 BST." <376F55C8.DD435AB3@sundayta.co.uk> 
X-URL: http://www.hands.com/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:06:22 +0100
Message-ID: <15902.930071182@hands.com>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>

> Phil et al,
> 
> > I have a feeling that the use of the ``official'' logo means that you cannot
> > give them out at training courses,  because that would be deemed commercial
> > use (maybe).
> 
> Sorry I did not think of that. I was planning to hand out Debian CD's as
> well. Is that OK? I assumed so as don't they get handed out at
> conferences.

There's no problem handing out (or even selling) CDs.  You can even put the 
official logo on them, if they're copies of the ``official'' CDs, and still 
give or sell them.

I'm beginning to think this two logo thing is a little silly, since there are 
going to be so few situations when the official logo is used, people may not 
recognise it as the Debian logo.

Cheers, Phil.





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jun 23 19:49:09 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10ws57-0001OJ-00 (Debian); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:49:09 +0100
Received: from ruari-quinn.demon.co.uk ([158.152.170.83] helo=cookie)
	by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 10ws54-000DxR-0K
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:49:06 +0000
Received: from james by cookie with local (Exim 2.11 #1 (Debian))
	id 10wCo9-0002b7-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:44:53 +0100
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] First post! Woo!
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990621223429.323a-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Mail-Copies-To: never
From: James Troup <james@nocrew.org>
Date: 21 Jun 1999 23:44:52 +0100
In-Reply-To: Steve McIntyre's message of "Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:35:53 +0100 (BST)"
Message-ID: <873dzluqaj.fsf@nocrew.org>
Lines: 9
User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) Emacs/20.3
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Sender: James Troup <james@ruari-quinn.demon.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

> It looks like there'll be plenty of Debian people there, anyway.

So who exactly is coming?  Obviously, Ian, Phil, yourself and me.  Who
else?

-- 
James




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jun 24 22:41:17 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.105.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10xHFF-0004w5-00 (Debian); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:41:17 +0100
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay1.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 10xHFE-0000u0-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:41:16 +0100
Received: from virgo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.42]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 8025679A.0076D88C; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:38:06 +0100
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:41:57 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@virgo.software.plasmon
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] First post! Woo!
In-Reply-To: <4C94152FB6B3A48C8025679A00768576.007685DB8025679A@plasmon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990624223929.1835s-100000@virgo.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

[ Apologies for the delay in this message making it to the list - mailman
appears to be a little _too_ aggressive in checking its queue and somehow
flagged this mail as an admin request... ]

On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, James Troup wrote:

>Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>
>> It looks like there'll be plenty of Debian people there, anyway.
>
>So who exactly is coming?  Obviously, Ian, Phil, yourself and me.  Who
>else?

I can't remember to be honest, but I could have sworn I'd heard from a few
other people too...

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software         smcintyr@allstor-sw.co.uk
Also available from steve_mcintyre@geocities.com
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Jun 25 04:25:27 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from ainur.ee.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.50.25] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 10xMcJ-0006qB-00 (Debian); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 04:25:27 +0100
Received: from yavanna.mcs.surrey.ac.uk by ainur.ee.surrey.ac.uk with smtp
	(Smail3.1.29.1-ident) id m10xIcU-0003KBC; Fri, 25 Jun 99 00:09 BST
Received: from ees2db by yavanna.mcs.surrey.ac.uk with local (Exim 0.57 #1)
	id 10xIcS-0003T8-00; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:09:20 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <14194.47771.550046.175867@yavanna.mcs.surrey.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:09:15 +0100 (BST)
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
From: Dima Barsky <dima@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] First post! Woo!
In-Reply-To: <873dzluqaj.fsf@nocrew.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990621223429.323a-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
	<873dzluqaj.fsf@nocrew.org>
X-Mailer: VM 6.70 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs  Lucid

James Troup wrote:

> So who exactly is coming?  Obviously, Ian, Phil, yourself and me.  Who
> else?

I'll be there too.

Dima.




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jul 17 09:29:04 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 115PqC-0006vi-00 (Debian); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:29:04 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id903-rp3726; 17 Jul 1999 08:29:04 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from sadcompscis.demon.co.uk ([158.152.37.34] helo=lump.mossbank.org.uk)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 115Pq9-0007JG-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:29:02 +0000
Received: from hammer.mossbank.org.uk [10.13.0.5] (mail)
	by lump.mossbank.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115Pkb-0002gF-00; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:23:17 +0100
Received: from steve by hammer.mossbank.org.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115Pki-0006MB-00; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:23:24 +0100
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:23:24 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@hammer.mossbank.org.uk
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Subject: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?

We had a longish thread about this on debian-devel a while back but
nothing came of it. So, I'll start the ball rolling again. Cambridge works
well for lots of us, and weekends are probably best. So, as a suggestion:

Cambridge, the first weekend in August?

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                   stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk
"It's actually quite entertaining to watch ag129 prop his foot up on
 the desk so he can get a better aim."          [ seen in ucam.chat ]
Finger for PGP key




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jul 17 12:09:11 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 115SL8-0008PM-00 (Debian); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:09:10 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1195-rp2756; 17 Jul 1999 11:09:10 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 115QrW-000Dfu-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:34:31 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115QrT-0004kn-00; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:34:27 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 115RAv-0001Ib-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:54:33 +0100
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:54:33 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Message-ID: <19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>; from Steve McIntyre on Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 09:23:24AM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On debian-uk, Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>=20
> We had a longish thread about this on debian-devel a while back but
> nothing came of it. So, I'll start the ball rolling again. Cambridge works
> well for lots of us, and weekends are probably best. So, as a suggestion:
>=20
> Cambridge, the first weekend in August?

Four hours on the train for me to get there. Four hours back again, =A330.=
=20

Ok.

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN5BS2MTul33Z9OdBAQFSzwQAmd4EZOI64/7qUGhpTBshN9FdYyvTKc7I
SLCXj3GGcoS3cf/mZWWleY6BCG8gxaWr+Tiy6oZtkOd0peE865bmO4aOtgP5dC0b
5Gc9Y/JaNfjoD+vmZCRFgGRyDR3bKRc/64eiK+LsTcRs3a/xBoyWKHPm+hcmi9ge
QFnaVD75AOQ=
=kKgF
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c--




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jul 17 22:30:32 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mail.enterprise.net [194.72.192.18] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 115c2S-0006tc-00 (Debian); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:30:32 +0100
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.18])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2741-rp2416; 17 Jul 1999 21:30:32 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (root@max03-014.enterprise.net [194.72.196.14])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21633
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:29:05 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (olly@localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by linda.lfix.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA08794
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:29:04 +0100
Message-Id: <199907171829.TAA08794@linda.lfix.co.uk>
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet? 
In-Reply-To: Message from Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> 
   of "Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:23:24 BST." <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:29:04 +0100
From: "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>

Steve McIntyre wrote:
  >
  >We had a longish thread about this on debian-devel a while back but
  >nothing came of it. So, I'll start the ball rolling again. Cambridge works
  >well for lots of us, and weekends are probably best. So, as a suggestion:
  >
  >Cambridge, the first weekend in August?
 
What kind of timetable are you thinking of?  It's somewhat difficult for
me to get there but my wife has a friend or two in Cambridge so it might
be manageable.

-- 
      Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
                 ========================================
Oliver Elphick                                Oliver.Elphick@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
               PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
                 ========================================
     "But my God shall supply all your need according to his
      riches in glory by Christ Jesus."     Philippians 4:19





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Jul 18 08:59:16 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net [195.102.240.137] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 115lqu-0006OX-00 (Debian); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:59:16 +0100
Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net ([195.102.240.137])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id715-rp57265; 18 Jul 1999 07:59:16 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from [195.102.196.237] (helo=polya)
	by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #61)
	id 115hQ8-00072e-00; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 04:15:21 +0100
Received: from jdg by polya with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115h8U-00030l-00; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 03:57:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> from Steve McIntyre at "Jul 17, 1999  9:23:24 am"
To: stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Steve McIntyre)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 03:57:06 +0100 (BST)
Cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Length: 600       
Message-Id: <E115h8U-00030l-00@polya>
From: Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk>

> 
> We had a longish thread about this on debian-devel a while back but
> nothing came of it. So, I'll start the ball rolling again. Cambridge works
> well for lots of us, and weekends are probably best. So, as a suggestion:
> 
> Cambridge, the first weekend in August?

I can come on Sunday afternoon, or possibly Sunday morning (if
anyone's out of bed by then).

   Julian

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

  Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk
        Debian GNU/Linux Developer,  see http://www.debian.org/~jdg



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Jul 18 04:41:10 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 115hp8-0000c7-00 (Debian); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 04:41:10 +0100
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id121-rp4989; 18 Jul 1999 03:41:10 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 115dnp-0009HK-0B
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:23:33 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115dnk-00059s-00; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:23:28 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 115e7I-0001ye-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:43:40 +0100
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:43:40 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Message-ID: <19990718004340.A7542@portaloo.>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.> <3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk>; from Jules Bean on Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 06:51:35PM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jules Bean <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Four hours on the train for me to get there. Four hours back again, 30.
> >=20
> > Ok.
>=20
> Phew - where do you live?

Bristol, I have to go via London to get to Cambridge.

> I can't do the first weekend in August - alas, I'm going to be in
> Hungary. =20
>=20
> Personally, I'm back in London for the summer (although the drive/train
> up to Cambridge is no great hardship).

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN5EVK8Tul33Z9OdBAQFp7wP/V9y/+OAZfepC69OPL7scIPE5X/sr8tAw
uPxNHeXScj/pF7QqPUcG+55RA+fI6cuuT56KYOAuegl2Ew4/ZMwHRyAfZ0Y9WThW
5aL6FOwx578bQ3STCdPGR+mWZhGJnIt5BhgsePoFDeW2u0gv/R/UXC3J7RNLowue
JdTm7b/qNZk=
=4Ulf
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC--




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Jul 18 10:09:06 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 115mwT-00073K-00 (Debian); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:09:05 +0100
Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id822-rp3144; 18 Jul 1999 09:09:05 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from sadcompscis.demon.co.uk ([158.152.37.34] helo=lump.mossbank.org.uk)
	by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 115mwQ-000MQH-0K
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:09:03 +0000
Received: from hammer.mossbank.org.uk [10.13.0.5] (mail)
	by lump.mossbank.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115mvv-0000go-00; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:08:31 +0100
Received: from steve by hammer.mossbank.org.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 115mw4-0005S6-00; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:08:40 +0100
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:08:40 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@hammer.mossbank.org.uk
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <E115h8U-00030l-00@polya>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990718100717.344E-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote:

>> 
>> We had a longish thread about this on debian-devel a while back but
>> nothing came of it. So, I'll start the ball rolling again. Cambridge works
>> well for lots of us, and weekends are probably best. So, as a suggestion:
>> 
>> Cambridge, the first weekend in August?
>
>I can come on Sunday afternoon, or possibly Sunday morning (if
>anyone's out of bed by then).

Hmmm. So maybe that weekend/venue aren't best. But I only really suggested
them to get some debate going. Suggestions? 

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                   stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Use Debian GNU/Linux - upgrade your Windoze box today!  http://www.debian.org/
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 +------------------
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  |Finger for PGP key




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jul 19 12:34:43 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from icarus.dur.ac.uk [129.234.1.2] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 116Bgx-0007H1-00 (Debian); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:34:43 +0100
Received: from icarus.dur.ac.uk ([129.234.1.2])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1971-rp59348; 19 Jul 1999 11:34:43 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mercury (mercury.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.40])
	by icarus.dur.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA03630;
	Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:28:28 +0100 (BST)
Received: from altair by mercury id <JAA17594@mercury>; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:28:27 +0100
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:28:26 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Gray <A.J.Gray@durham.ac.uk>
To: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990718100717.344E-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95-960729.990719092548.23211C-100000@altair.dur.ac.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote:

> >> Cambridge, the first weekend in August?
> >
> 
> Hmmm. So maybe that weekend/venue aren't best. But I only really suggested
> them to get some debate going. Suggestions? 

Cambridge sounds good to me (right side of country).  1st free
weekend looks like 25th September, but that may change anyway.

Andrew
(County Durham)




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jul 19 19:00:38 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 116HiQ-0005ee-00 (Debian); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:00:38 +0100
Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id3666-rp3434; 19 Jul 1999 18:00:38 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 116HhA-0002Ld-0C
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:59:21 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 116Hgx-000774-00; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:59:07 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 116I2A-0000AV-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:21:02 +0100
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:21:02 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <19990719192102.A455@portaloo.>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [Debian-uk] Fwd: Joey in London

--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Could this be a good time and place to meet?

----- Forwarded message from Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE=
> -----

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:50:24 +0200
From: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>
To: Debian Development <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Joey in London
X-Mailing-List: <debian-devel@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/40558

Hi there,

I'll be in London on Saturday, July 24th.  If one of you is up to
a meeting with me, please contact me directly to work out a meeting
point.  Please don't forget to take your pgp/gpg fingerprint with
you.

Regards,

	Joey

----- End forwarded message -----

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN5NsjcTul33Z9OdBAQE++gP/fG63sUScTQXLZEM+UgAV1C/aevemGeTr
cD8bNmFV7J3ytsxodpTozAuVNstXkxIQbOEJsBk0AyAkOKjvUc8BTTYpjwNb9c7+
pWyTYxSFlkuNWZguWtNPPsQ2uP/itrwvSKiUctP7XYOICNLAhtOVMIAYcRc+HaSc
95cI6drY77E=
=qjN2
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jul 19 23:04:09 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 116LW5-0001Nd-00 (Debian); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:04:09 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id4983-rp1032; 19 Jul 1999 22:04:09 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from zenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.15.138])
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 116LW3-00038Y-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:04:08 +0000
Received: from dave by zenda.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.05 #1)
	  id 116L6w-0000Il-00 (Debian); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:38:10 +0100
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:38:10 +0100
From: Dave Holland <dave@zenda.demon.co.uk>
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Message-ID: <19990719223809.A1139@zenda.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>; from Steve McIntyre on Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 09:23:24AM +0100

On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 09:23:24AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Cambridge, the first weekend in August?

31 July or 1 August is probably better for me than 7/8 August. Cambridge
is good in any case (though I have a car so I'm open to other
suggestions).

How about 26 July and hijacking the cam.misc meet?!

Dave
-- 
Dave Holland | dave@zenda.demon.co.uk | http://www.zenda.demon.co.uk/dave/



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jul 19 23:05:52 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 116LXj-0001Pm-00 (Debian); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:05:51 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.2)
          with esmtp id sauce-id4992-rp1542; 19 Jul 1999 22:05:51 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 116LXh-0003K4-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:05:50 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 116LXb-0007Pl-00; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:05:43 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 116Lse-0000me-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:27:28 +0100
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:27:28 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Fwd: Joey in London
Message-ID: <19990719232728.A2999@portaloo.>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <19990719192102.A455@portaloo.>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <19990719192102.A455@portaloo.>; from Edward Betts on Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 07:21:02PM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Edward Betts <edward@debian.org> wrote:
> Could this be a good time and place to meet?
>=20
> ----- Forwarded message from Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.=
DE> -----
>=20
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:50:24 +0200
> From: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>
> To: Debian Development <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Joey in London
> X-Mailing-List: <debian-devel@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/40558
>=20
> Hi there,
>=20
> I'll be in London on Saturday, July 24th.  If one of you is up to
> a meeting with me, please contact me directly to work out a meeting
> point.  Please don't forget to take your pgp/gpg fingerprint with
> you.

Joey says forget it. Trip cancelled.

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN5OmT8Tul33Z9OdBAQEpOQP/fwqDM/bfskCWbzKWZgDEJ/yEfDLgPpfd
ybsYTTjSHHghZC9DQmGi7SPiNBiQDzg11GbXAOsu3T/n+bOGbza9si77ULT0We2+
GGolIyuf5ZK4o1u5izmIH0HInUVE5xkcHl0YqPwt+niBQOmrfhknqIwsbzZ1On4V
+nrZ6RJWSRY=
=Qlsy
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jul 22 04:12:39 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.1] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 1179Hj-0003cx-00 (Debian); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:12:39 +0100
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk ([194.42.225.1]) ident root
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id42-rp64865; 22 Jul 1999 03:12:39 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-06-24.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.229.152])
	by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA20703
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:47:13 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 8639 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 23:47:11 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 23:47:11 -0000
Received: (qmail 19233 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Jul 1999 23:47:09 -0000
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.> <3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk> <19990718004340.A7542@portaloo.>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
Date: 22 Jul 1999 00:47:08 +0100
In-Reply-To: Edward Betts's message of "Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:43:40 +0100"
Message-ID: <87n1wpin0j.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Lines: 19
X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald"
X-RBL-Warning: See http://www.orbs.org/blocked.cgi. Your mailserver is in the ORBS database. Consult with your mailserver administrator.

Edward Betts <edward@debian.org> writes:

> Jules Bean <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > Four hours on the train for me to get there. Four hours back again, 30.
> > >=20
> > > Ok.
> >=20
> > Phew - where do you live?
> 
> Bristol, I have to go via London to get to Cambridge.

Cambridge is a couple of hours by bike for me (from Reading) so
anything within that sort of radius is OK with me.

Do we have any idea of where our ``centre of gravity'' is ?

Perhaps a quick poll of people's locations would be a good first step ?

Cheers, Phil.



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jul 22 11:20:07 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.105.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 117FxP-0001rJ-00 (Debian); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:20:07 +0100
Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.105.6])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2000-rp46387; 22 Jul 1999 10:20:07 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay1.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 117FxI-00049F-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:20:00 +0100
Received: from leo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.16]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567B6.00387995; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:16:51 +0100
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:19:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@leo.software.plasmon
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <425B37FA1287484C802567B6001171F8.00117248802567B6@plasmon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990722111752.353E-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: See http://www.orbs.org/blocked.cgi. Your mailserver is in the ORBS database. Consult with your mailserver administrator.

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Philip Hands wrote:

>Cambridge is a couple of hours by bike for me (from Reading) so
>anything within that sort of radius is OK with me.
>
>Do we have any idea of where our ``centre of gravity'' is ?
>
>Perhaps a quick poll of people's locations would be a good first step ?

Sounds good. Do you want to organise it?

On a (slightly) related note, I'm tempted to mail a (monthly?) pointer to
this list on debian-devel. Comments?

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software         smcintyr@allstor-sw.co.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/comp/>My PC page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jul 22 16:21:21 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from avalon.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.7] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 117Kev-0007T1-00 (Debian); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:21:21 +0100
Received: from avalon.netcom.net.uk ([194.42.225.7]) ident root
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id3315-rp34516; 22 Jul 1999 15:21:21 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-21-08.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.233.72])
	by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09217
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:37:51 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 14959 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 11:36:42 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 11:36:42 -0000
Received: (qmail 17803 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jul 1999 11:36:41 -0000
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990722111752.353E-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
Date: 22 Jul 1999 12:36:40 +0100
In-Reply-To: Steve McIntyre's message of "Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:19:48 +0100 (BST)"
Message-ID: <87emi0zzjr.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Lines: 20
X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald"
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

> On a (slightly) related note, I'm tempted to mail a (monthly?) pointer to
> this list on debian-devel. Comments?

It might be better to have a new section in the mailing lists web
pages, for country specific mailing lists.  I assume that we're not
the only country that feel a need for this.

If we set up aliases on the mailservers so that

  debian-uk@lists.debian.org

got forwarded to debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk then people's first
guess would work.

Presumably, if we also aliased debian-uk-request, they'd even get
subscribed correctly.

Cheers, Phil.



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Jul 23 08:07:10 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 117ZQE-0002L1-00 (Debian); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:07:10 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1083-rp2946; 23 Jul 1999 07:07:10 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 117ZQ8-000P2R-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:07:04 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 117ZQ5-0002nF-00; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:07:01 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 117ZTn-00019u-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:10:51 +0100
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:39:01 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Message-ID: <19990723081051.A4282@portaloo.>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.> <3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk> <19990718004340.A7542@portaloo.> <87n1wpin0j.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <87n1wpin0j.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>; from Philip Hands on Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 12:47:08AM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> wrote:
> Cambridge is a couple of hours by bike for me (from Reading) so
> anything within that sort of radius is OK with me.
>=20
> Do we have any idea of where our ``centre of gravity'' is ?

London obviously

> Perhaps a quick poll of people's locations would be a good first step ?

=46rom /usr/share/misc/cities.dat.gz:

ID          : 60
Type        : City
Population  : 413861
Size        :=20
Name        : Bristol
 Country    : UK
 Region     : England
Location    : Earth
 Longitude  : -2.567
 Latitude   :   51.467
 Elevation  :=20
Date        : 19961206
Entered-By  : Rob.Hooft@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN5gVecTul33Z9OdBAQElQgP9GUmHxO97bEJiW8MLaWuirJg8zTYHT/Xc
IY6qNTpbcfKHH1enRp02DWSLdwMn0nHH4g0B3QSYekq5JmANlepc2jIxPpIL+iMJ
W2vNibYv4dsuImK2f141LwMXfoIY/1v2C3LURN/iom+spBdzLSY8yYl/gZIT8L4B
fv9wF02pi5w=
=YWNW
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jul 24 01:37:06 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mail.enterprise.net [194.72.192.18] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 117poI-0001ZN-00 (Debian); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:37:06 +0100
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.18])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id270-rp3520; 24 Jul 1999 00:37:06 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (root@max05-049.enterprise.net [194.72.197.49])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29048
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:37:03 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (olly@localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by linda.lfix.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA28977
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:37:02 +0100
Message-Id: <199907240037.BAA28977@linda.lfix.co.uk>
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet? 
In-Reply-To: Message from Edward Betts <edward@debian.org> 
   of "Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:39:01 BST." <19990723081051.A4282@portaloo.> 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:37:01 +0100
From: "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: See http://www.orbs.org/blocked.cgi. Your mailserver is in the ORBS database. Consult with your mailserver administrator.

Edward Betts wrote:
  >> Do we have any idea of where our ``centre of gravity'' is ?
  >
  >London obviously
  >
  >> Perhaps a quick poll of people's locations would be a good first step ?

I'm on the Isle of Wight 

Access to London is fairly good, and I can get accommodation there; Oxford
is not too bad, and there are lots of people there I could stay with.
Southampton would be very nice.

Cambridge is more difficult to get to, but I probably have a chance of
free accommodation there.

-- 
      Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
                 ========================================
Oliver Elphick                                Oliver.Elphick@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
               PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
                 ========================================
     "Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another;
      be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and
      humble. Do not repay evil for evil or insult for
      insult, but with blessing, because to this you were
      called so that you may inherit a blessing."  
                                          I Peter 3:8,9 





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jul 24 03:03:51 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 117rAE-0002zH-00 (Debian); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:03:50 +0100
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id746-rp4253; 24 Jul 1999 02:03:50 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from praeclarus.demon.co.uk ([212.228.251.99] helo=planet.praeclarus.demon.co.uk)
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 117qBN-000JPp-0B
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:00:58 +0000
Received: by planet.rmsq.com
	via sendmail from stdin
	id <m117qBM-0002ifC@planet.praeclarus.demon.co.uk> (Debian Smail3.2.0.102)
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:00:56 +0100 (BST) 
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.> <3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk> <19990718004340.A7542@portaloo.> <87n1wpin0j.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Organization: The Spanish Inquisition. Well, you didn't expect that, did you?
From: Aaron Crane <aaron.crane@pobox.com>
In-Reply-To: Philip Hands's message of "22 Jul 1999 00:47:08 +0100"
Date: 24 Jul 1999 02:00:56 +0100
Message-ID: <djbtd2kgjb.fsf@planet.rmsq.com>
Lines: 9
X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald"

Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> writes:
> Perhaps a quick poll of people's locations would be a good first step ?

I'm in Manchester at the moment. And by the way, if there are any developers 
round here I'd love to meet up some time fairly soon to swap PGP keys -- I
*really* want to get my developer application in.

-- 
Aaron Crane   <aaron.crane@pobox.com>   <URL:http://pobox.com/~aaronc/>



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Jul 24 12:36:58 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from merlins.force9.net [195.166.128.23] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11806s-00016N-00 (Debian); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:36:58 +0100
Received: from merlins.force9.net ([195.166.128.23])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with smtp id sauce-id3448-rp4903; 24 Jul 1999 11:36:58 +0000 (GMT)
Received: (qmail 14437 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 11:36:57 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO coors.free-online.net) (212.56.108.80)
  by merlins.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 11:36:57 -0000
Received: (qmail 9368 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 11:12:35 -0000
Received: from 389.hiper02.shef.dialup.plus.net.uk (HELO pallen.dabsol.co.uk) (195.166.145.133)
  by coors.free-online.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 11:12:35 -0000
Message-ID: <37999F57.DAB1BB45@pallen.dabsol.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:11:19 +0100
From: Peter Allen <P.Allen@pallen.dabsol.co.uk>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.> <3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk> <19990718004340.A7542@portaloo.> <87n1wpin0j.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Philip Hands wrote:
> 
> Edward Betts <edward@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > Jules Bean <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > > Four hours on the train for me to get there. Four hours back again, 30.
> > > >=20
> > > > Ok.
> > >=20
> > > Phew - where do you live?
> >
> > Bristol, I have to go via London to get to Cambridge.
> 
> Cambridge is a couple of hours by bike for me (from Reading) so
> anything within that sort of radius is OK with me.
> 
> Do we have any idea of where our ``centre of gravity'' is ?
> 
> Perhaps a quick poll of people's locations would be a good first step ?
> 
> Cheers, Phil.
> 
I'm in Woking (Surrey), so have very good access to London, and
reasnable good access to Cambridge.

			Peter Allen



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jul 28 08:09:05 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from ainur.ee.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.50.25] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 119Npo-0005al-00 (Debian); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:09:04 +0100
Received: from ainur.ee.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.50.25]) ident root
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with smtp id sauce-id1535-rp55100; 28 Jul 1999 07:09:04 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from yavanna.mcs.surrey.ac.uk by ainur.ee.surrey.ac.uk with smtp
	(Smail3.1.29.1-ident) id m118oNd-0001XBC; Mon, 26 Jul 99 18:17 BST
Received: from ees2db by yavanna.mcs.surrey.ac.uk with local (Exim 0.57 #1)
	id 118oNc-0001ln-00; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:17:36 +0100
Message-ID: <14236.38953.6056.648154@yavanna.mcs.surrey.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:17:29 +0100 (BST)
From: Dima Barsky <dima@debian.org>
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <37999F57.DAB1BB45@pallen.dabsol.co.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990717091740.13112D-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
	<19990717105433.A4971@portaloo.>
	<3790C2A7.DCB0C75C@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
	<19990718004340.A7542@portaloo.>
	<87n1wpin0j.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
	<37999F57.DAB1BB45@pallen.dabsol.co.uk>
X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs  Lucid

Peter Allen wrote:

> I'm in Woking (Surrey), so have very good access to London, and
> reasnable good access to Cambridge.

What a surprise, I live in Woking too. Would you like to go out for a
pint of beer sometime?

As for the Debian-UK meeting, I would perefer London. Any weekend in
August would suit me perfectly.

Regards,
Dima.




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jul 29 14:46:04 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.105.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 119qVY-0002uB-00 (Debian); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:46:04 +0100
Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.105.6])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id911-rp35944; 29 Jul 1999 13:46:04 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay1.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 119Qbl-0001r0-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:06:45 +0100
Received: from leo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.16]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567BC.003747D4; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:03:48 +0100
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:06:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@leo.software.plasmon
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <3FABD472F44BBD4A802567BC0030668B.003066AC802567BC@plasmon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990728100402.1014D-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: See http://www.orbs.org/blocked.cgi. Your mailserver is in the ORBS database. Consult with your mailserver administrator.

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Dima Barsky wrote:

>As for the Debian-UK meeting, I would perefer London. Any weekend in
>August would suit me perfectly.

OK, London seems best. August works for most people by the looks of it. I
don't really have the time to do much in the way of organisation -
volunteers?

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software         smcintyr@allstor-sw.co.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/comp/>My PC page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Aug 03 12:45:27 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.1] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11Bd0Y-0004i4-00 (Debian); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:45:26 +0100
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk ([194.42.225.1]) ident root
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id3093-rp47268; 03 Aug 1999 11:45:26 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-00-58.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.58])
	by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28669
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:45:22 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 18048 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 11:44:16 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 11:44:16 -0000
Received: (qmail 3668 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Aug 1999 11:44:15 -0000
To: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Cc: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990728100402.1014D-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
Date: 03 Aug 1999 12:44:15 +0100
In-Reply-To: Steve McIntyre's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:06:02 +0000 (GMT)"
Message-ID: <87wvvdgkc0.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Lines: 10
X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald"
X-RBL-Warning: See http://www.orbs.org/blocked.cgi. Your mailserver is in the ORBS database. Consult with your mailserver administrator.

Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> OK, London seems best. August works for most people by the looks of it. I
> don't really have the time to do much in the way of organisation -
> volunteers?

I'm away the next couple of weekends (off to watch the eclipse, and
eat & drink too much, in France :-), so after that would be good for
me.

Cheers, Phil.



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Aug 04 22:55:36 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11C90Z-0002Hg-00 (Debian); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:55:35 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id4498-rp3592; 04 Aug 1999 21:55:35 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from sadcompscis.demon.co.uk ([158.152.37.34] helo=lump.mossbank.org.uk)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11C90W-000Ch8-0A; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:55:32 +0000
Received: from hammer.mossbank.org.uk [10.13.0.5] (mail)
	by lump.mossbank.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11C8gy-0000Fw-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:35:20 +0100
Received: from steve by hammer.mossbank.org.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11C8h1-0004QD-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:35:23 +0100
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:35:23 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@hammer.mossbank.org.uk
To: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
cc: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <87wvvdgkc0.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990804223153.358G-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On 3 Aug 1999, Philip Hands wrote:

>Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>> OK, London seems best. August works for most people by the looks of it. I
>> don't really have the time to do much in the way of organisation -
>> volunteers?
>
>I'm away the next couple of weekends (off to watch the eclipse, and
>eat & drink too much, in France :-), so after that would be good for
>me.

Right. Nobody seems to be interested in organising anything, so I guess
I'll have to push it. Saturday the 21st August in London at <random
decision> 3pm. I don't know the best place to do this, but I'd guess a pub
near a central tube/BR station will probably suit people best. Covent
Garden / Leicester Square??? People, help me please!!!

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                   stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/>My home page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 +------------------
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  |Finger for PGP key




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Aug 04 23:41:36 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11C9j6-0002pX-00 (Debian); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:36 +0100
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id4721-rp1404; 04 Aug 1999 22:41:36 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11C9j0-0006Xe-0B
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:41:33 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11C9h7-0002kF-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:39:33 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 11C9y2-0000Ee-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:57:02 +0100
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:57:02 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Message-ID: <19990804235702.A851@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <87wvvdgkc0.fsf@sheikh.hands.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.990804223153.358G-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990804223153.358G-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>; from Steve McIntyre on Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 10:35:23PM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Right. Nobody seems to be interested in organising anything, so I guess
> I'll have to push it. Saturday the 21st August in London at <random
> decision> 3pm. I don't know the best place to do this, but I'd guess a pub
> near a central tube/BR station will probably suit people best. Covent
> Garden / Leicester Square??? People, help me please!!!

I will be there.

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN6jFPcTul33Z9OdBAQHkywP/eKb4IwlgMwAAAIs8PeyhKrZK5HaItC5Q
cgw028ITMpbLiF0W1qUqaRWIB6ZS94X7tazE7GRQZDQre8p0TGj5XdKIDTvi7xna
ymoKC4zEePEin7NiYWi7oPDz5iKq/SkavD7FpSfftdvi8Jn6IkQvgxmVj9CQc1n8
gSrUPKx7/FU=
=w1FI
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Aug 05 12:49:08 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11CM1D-0002uX-00 (Debian); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:49:07 +0100
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id824-rp4111; 05 Aug 1999 11:49:07 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11CHcH-000CgS-0B; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:07:06 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11CHWH-00036t-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:00:53 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 11CHnI-0000mq-00; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 08:18:28 +0100
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:18:28 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian development list <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>,
	Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
	Roman Hodek <roman@debian.org>, Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
Message-ID: <19990805081828.A2989@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian development list <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>,
	Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
	Roman Hodek <roman@debian.org>, Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [Debian-uk] 6th International Linux-Kongress

--OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So who else is going?

I notice that Roman Hodek and Martin Schulze are running a tutorial, so I
presume that they are going. Will the tutorial be in German or English? I o=
nly
speak a couple of words of German.

What is everybody doing for accomidation? Is there any provided on the
University site? Is there a Debian booth I can help out in, or is it not th=
at
type of conference, or would my like of German prevent me from assisting?
As I am a Debian Developer, can I get in for free (well it is worth trying).

To the people on Debian-UK, is anybody else going who would like to travel
with me? I will be leaving from Bristol, and probably travelling through
London, I have yet to decied on my method of transport (train, bus, or plan=
e).

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN6k6w8Tul33Z9OdBAQHHSQP+NEjgmpwoKkzD/0xPk3EsxNHEgIxIYUaL
K09K8tYyDrTo9wA+F9TyZcdgr8rhLPDGzHiRvy/oQYsMFMNEowFUeoN0/8O9IWeW
d7YNQp5DjBVXS0Y2pnk8vHEu1nDBwmsAwSDtTr+f2t5HfNU6txQ66Q/xl6t2jh/k
tFHiE64crSE=
=EBRu
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Aug 05 16:42:36 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from ivanova.coker.com.au [203.36.46.209] (postfix)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11CPf9-00041D-00 (Debian); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:42:35 +0100
Received: from ivanova.coker.com.au ([203.36.46.209]) ident postfix
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1234-rp1756; 05 Aug 1999 15:42:35 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from lyta.coker.com.au (proxy [10.10.10.8])
	by ivanova.coker.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id CA74E127C4; Fri,  6 Aug 1999 01:43:02 +1000 (EST)
Received: from lyta (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by lyta.coker.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP
	id 29904178CA; Thu,  5 Aug 1999 16:42:14 +0100 (BST)
From: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
Reply-To: russell@coker.com.au
To: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:41:23 +0100
X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.22]
Content-Type: text/plain
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990804223153.358G-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <9908051642130Q.01575@lyta>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On Wed, 04 Aug 1999, you wrote:
>On 3 Aug 1999, Philip Hands wrote:
>
>>Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>>> OK, London seems best. August works for most people by the looks of it. I
>>> don't really have the time to do much in the way of organisation -
>>> volunteers?
>>
>>I'm away the next couple of weekends (off to watch the eclipse, and
>>eat & drink too much, in France :-), so after that would be good for
>>me.
>
>Right. Nobody seems to be interested in organising anything, so I guess
>I'll have to push it. Saturday the 21st August in London at <random
>decision> 3pm. I don't know the best place to do this, but I'd guess a pub
>near a central tube/BR station will probably suit people best. Covent
>Garden / Leicester Square??? People, help me please!!!

I suggest that we meet earlier than that.  If our movements are predictable or
if we have enough people with mobile phones then others can join in later.

--
This is the noise that keeps me awake




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Aug 05 17:44:24 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay4.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.111.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11CQcy-0005Tk-00 (Debian); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:44:24 +0100
Received: from relay4.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.111.6])
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1614-rp46641; 05 Aug 1999 16:44:24 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay4.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 11CQbn-0002Yy-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:43:11 +0100
Received: from leo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.16]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567C4.005BAAD7; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:41:15 +0100
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:43:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@leo.software.plasmon
To: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
In-Reply-To: <E6888FBE59FBDF68802567C4005B6CCE.005B6D07802567C4@plasmon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990805164227.395C-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=154.32.111.6

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Russell Coker wrote:

>>Right. Nobody seems to be interested in organising anything, so I guess
>>I'll have to push it. Saturday the 21st August in London at <random
>>decision> 3pm. I don't know the best place to do this, but I'd guess a pub
>>near a central tube/BR station will probably suit people best. Covent
>>Garden / Leicester Square??? People, help me please!!!
>
>I suggest that we meet earlier than that.  If our movements are
>predictable or if we have enough people with mobile phones then others
>can join in later. 

I suggested 3 to give people from further away a chance to get there in
time; I'd envisage a get-together going on for a few hours and possibly
including a meal later on... 

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software         smcintyr@allstor-sw.co.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/comp/>My PC page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Aug 06 10:36:05 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from ivanova.coker.com.au [203.36.46.209] (postfix)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11CgQ0-0001Ob-00 (Debian); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:36:04 +0100
Received: from ivanova.coker.com.au ([203.36.46.209]) ident postfix
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1855-rp1806; 06 Aug 1999 09:36:04 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from lyta.coker.com.au (proxy [10.10.10.8])
	by ivanova.coker.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id 08F87127C4; Fri,  6 Aug 1999 19:36:55 +1000 (EST)
Received: from lyta (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by lyta.coker.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP
	id BDFF8178CA; Fri,  6 Aug 1999 10:36:13 +0100 (BST)
From: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
Reply-To: russell@coker.com.au
To: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:33:20 +0100
X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.22]
Content-Type: text/plain
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990805164227.395C-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
Cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <9908061036120U.01575@lyta>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On Thu, 05 Aug 1999, you wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Russell Coker wrote:
>
>>>Right. Nobody seems to be interested in organising anything, so I guess
>>>I'll have to push it. Saturday the 21st August in London at <random
>>>decision> 3pm. I don't know the best place to do this, but I'd guess a pub
>>>near a central tube/BR station will probably suit people best. Covent
>>>Garden / Leicester Square??? People, help me please!!!
>>
>>I suggest that we meet earlier than that.  If our movements are
>>predictable or if we have enough people with mobile phones then others
>>can join in later. 
>
>I suggested 3 to give people from further away a chance to get there in
>time; I'd envisage a get-together going on for a few hours and possibly
>including a meal later on... 

If someone takes 2 hours to get there then leaving at 9:30AM they can get there
by 12:00 without any problems.  Compared to whatever they may do during the
week this is unlikely to be an early morning for them.  Then in the evening as
transport closes down at mid-night they will have to depart before 10:00.  If
we start at 3:00 then they can leave home after mid-day (surely they don't need
to be that late) and will only be able to spend a maximum of 7 hours hanging
out with us for 4 hours travel...


--
This is the noise that keeps me awake



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Aug 06 11:01:03 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.1] (root)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11CgoB-0001lJ-00 (Debian); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:01:03 +0100
Received: from camelot.netcom.net.uk ([194.42.225.1]) ident root
	  by permutation-city.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1958-rp54651; 06 Aug 1999 10:01:03 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from fist.hands.com (dialup-15-41.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.231.233])
	by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29320
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:00:57 +0100 (BST)
Received: (qmail 26044 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 10:00:53 -0000
Received: from sheikh-dmz.hands.com (HELO sheikh.hands.com) (qmailr@193.195.34.10)
  by fist.hands.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 10:00:53 -0000
Received: (qmail 11068 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Aug 1999 10:00:51 -0000
To: Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk>
Cc: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
        UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>, bjb@deus.net
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Time for a UK Debian meet?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990804223153.358G-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <37A96C4B.2137CF0F@jellybean.co.uk>
From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
Date: 06 Aug 1999 11:00:51 +0100
In-Reply-To: Jules Bean's message of "Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:49:47 +0100"
Message-ID: <87lnbpcjos.fsf@sheikh.hands.com>
Lines: 15
X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald"
X-RBL-Warning: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=194.42.225.1

Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> writes:

> Sadly, there's no one on this thread who I'd recognise by sight.... so
> meeting in a crowded pub could be fun.  Maybe the penguin pool at London
> zoo would be better ;-)

Well, Steve and I (at least) have Debian swirl TShirts, which might
help.  I could get a few more of those prinred if people are
interested.

There was a photo of me, and probalbly photo's of the others that
turned up to Linux'99 somewhere on the web, but I've lost the URL,
anyone else know where that was ?

Cheers, Phil.



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Aug 06 15:10:29 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mail.vi.net [194.88.77.21] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11CkhZ-0001b6-00 (Debian); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:10:29 +0100
Received: from mail.vi.net ([194.88.77.21])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id473-rp6160; 06 Aug 1999 14:10:29 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from banana.office.vi.net (gateway.vi.net [194.88.77.159]) by mail.vi.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18406; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:10:26 +0100
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=jellybean.co.uk)
	by banana.office.vi.net with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1 (Debian))
	id 11CkhV-0005gn-00; Fri, 06 Aug 1999 15:10:25 +0100
Sender: jules@vi.net
Message-ID: <37AAECD1.ABDFED04@jellybean.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 15:10:25 +0100
From: Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i586)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
CC: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
        debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990805164227.395C-100000@leo.software.plasmon> <9908061036120U.01575@lyta>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: [Debian-uk] Test (sorry guys)

Chiark's mailer doesn't like me :-(

Is this getting through to you, Steve?

Jules




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Aug 07 09:06:56 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11D1VI-0000NN-00 (Debian); Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:06:56 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2357-rp2387; 07 Aug 1999 08:06:56 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11D1VF-000AGE-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:06:54 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11CsID-000474-00; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:16:49 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.02 #1(Debian))
	id 11Cscj-0000QT-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 06 Aug 1999 23:38:01 +0100
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:38:01 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Message-ID: <19990806233801.A1621@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990805164227.395C-100000@leo.software.plasmon> <9908061036120U.01575@lyta> <37AAECD1.ABDFED04@jellybean.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X"; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <37AAECD1.ABDFED04@jellybean.co.uk>; from Jules Bean on Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 03:10:25PM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [Debian-uk] why not use smartlist? (was: Test (sorry guys))

--LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> wrote:
> Chiark's mailer doesn't like me :-(
>=20
> Is this getting through to you, Steve?

It is on the list, as is this.

My questions are, what is wrong with smartlist?

Why require people to be subscribed to post? (spam?)

Why prefix each subject with [Debian-UK] we know the mailing list based on =
the
to address?
--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN6tjyMTul33Z9OdBAQFErAQAwLUUFikXhN4NfhtEol5QpcrQCQCxItlC
ZrhHMxI20RyQxFWSbAcHWDfXg94wII/naxRnT7HdlMsAIpE8lsNGePm8hvJp+9+z
Q12BkKXnx2DNcY+MeOxAAQ2vDl8akN20c2Uysx6w4YIA8QQnTzatnn3c8rzJQ2Zm
YUSC+ZKxCxQ=
=uHCg
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Aug 09 01:59:21 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net [195.102.240.34] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11Ddmb-0002fO-00 (Debian); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:59:21 +0100
Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net ([195.102.240.34])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id411-rp58851; 09 Aug 1999 00:59:21 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from [195.102.196.166] (helo=polya)
	by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #61)
	id 11DHA5-0005zQ-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:50:06 +0100
Received: from jdg by polya with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11DGwo-0008WK-00; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:36:22 +0100
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:36:22 +0100 (BST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Length: 608       
Message-Id: <E11DGwo-0008WK-00@polya>
From: Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk>
Subject: [Debian-uk] UK-TuG meeting

Just to let anyone who might be interested know: the UK TeX Users'
Group is holding a 10th anniversary conference on 12th-13th September
(one month's time) at which Prof Don Knuth will be the guest speaker.
If anyone is interested, email UKTUG-Enquiries@tex.ac.uk for more
info, I would suggest.  (I will sadly not be able to be there,
although I would dearly love to be.)

   Julian

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

  Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk
        Debian GNU/Linux Developer,  see http://www.debian.org/~jdg



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Aug 09 07:41:55 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11Dj86-0006r7-00 (Debian); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:41:54 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1838-rp2809; 09 Aug 1999 06:41:54 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11Dj83-000Ige-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:41:52 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11Dj7o-0001v6-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:41:36 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.03 #1(Debian))
	id 11Dj7V-0000rw-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 07:41:17 +0100
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:41:17 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] UK-TuG meeting
Message-ID: <19990809074117.A3246@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
References: <E11DGwo-0008WK-00@polya>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <E11DGwo-0008WK-00@polya>; from Julian Gilbey on Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 01:36:22AM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk> wrote:
> Just to let anyone who might be interested know: the UK TeX Users'
> Group is holding a 10th anniversary conference on 12th-13th September
> (one month's time) at which Prof Don Knuth will be the guest speaker.
> If anyone is interested, email UKTUG-Enquiries@tex.ac.uk for more
> info, I would suggest.  (I will sadly not be able to be there,
> although I would dearly love to be.)

Where?

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN654DMTul33Z9OdBAQG4vwP/Wrc+DD4RRHwqhc3CGviS09Nnrv+HeNvC
AfYkL97AjX4MqE+kFl7D2T2C4rxri+Hot3Kzw8P1knx0/vFxe1+WMTNCxE1e4tKp
agopjtkrt0Kse8dWz+icJhr0FPSpSVe5XkxnPPtfoCuxLLHuN2QxHmjOnlZyV56B
Zz5O3C6wUbI=
=gLHP
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Aug 09 10:22:20 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net [195.102.240.137] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11DldL-0000TH-00 (Debian); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:22:19 +0100
Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net ([195.102.240.137])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2414-rp39419; 09 Aug 1999 09:22:19 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from [195.102.196.2] (helo=polya)
	by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #61)
	id 11DlcF-0001DM-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:21:12 +0100
Received: from jdg by polya with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11DlYP-0002JR-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:17:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] UK-TuG meeting
In-Reply-To: <19990809074117.A3246@hairnet.demon.co.uk> from Edward Betts at "Aug 9, 1999  7:41:17 am"
To: edward@debian.org (Edward Betts)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:17:13 +0100 (BST)
Cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Length: 3191      
Message-Id: <E11DlYP-0002JR-00@polya>
From: Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

> Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Just to let anyone who might be interested know: the UK TeX Users'
> > Group is holding a 10th anniversary conference on 12th-13th September
> > (one month's time) at which Prof Don Knuth will be the guest speaker.
> > If anyone is interested, email UKTUG-Enquiries@tex.ac.uk for more
> > info, I would suggest.  (I will sadly not be able to be there,
> > although I would dearly love to be.)
> 
> Where?

Oxford.  Full details appended to this email....

   Julian

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

  Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk
        Debian GNU/Linux Developer,  see http://www.debian.org/~jdg

Forwarded email:

Dear UK-TuG member --

The Chairman and Committee of UK-TuG request the pleasure 
of your company at the Tenth Anniversary Meeting
of the UK TeX Users' Group, to be held at St Anne's College, Oxford,
on Sunday 12th and Monday 13th [1] September 1999.

The meeting will commence at 11:30 on Sunday 12th September with
the first of a series of talks on the theme "TeX and its
relationship to the {SG|HT|XM}L family of languages".
After lunch on Sunday there will be further talks on this topic,
following which there will be the 1999 Annual General Meeting
of the UK TeX Users' Group.

In the evening, there will be a special Anniversary Banquet, at
which Professor Donald Knuth and his wife Jill will be our
guests of honour.  After the meal, Don has kindly agreed to
give a spontaneous question-and-answer session, and members
of UK-TuG will be most welcome to ask Don questions on any
topic which is of mutual interest.


Provisional Registration

Since the exact details of the programme and costs are not
yet known, registration must of necessity be only provisional.
To help us gauge interest in the programme, and to forewarn
St Anne's of our likely accommodation requirements,
we would be much obliged if you could either complete and
return the on-line form at

   http://uk.tug.org/uk-tug/1999/agm/pre-registration/

or complete and return the paper form which should arrive on
Monday next.


Estimate of costs

Rather than offer a confusingly large range of options,
we have priced this conference on the basis of one
fixed and two optional elements.  The fixed element
is the conference proper (there is, of course, no
charge for attendance at the A.G.M.), and the optional
elements are the banquet on the evening of Sunday 12th
and accommodation in St Anne's for the same evening.
The probable costs are as follows :

    Conference :    GBP 50-00, GBP 72-00 for non-members [2] 

    Banquet :       GBP 30-00;

    Accommodation : GBP 35-00.


[1] The continuation to Monday is dependent on a sufficient 
    number of knowledgeable speakers being found.  At the moment, 
    Michel Goossens, Taco Hoekwater and Sebastian Rahtz have 
    confirmed that they will be speaking, and we are currently 
    negotiating with several others; final details of the 
    programme will be distributed as soon as they are known.

[2] These will be reduced in the unfortunate event
    of the Conference being cut back to one day.



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Aug 09 12:09:47 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.109.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11DnJL-000253-00 (Debian); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:09:47 +0100
Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.109.6])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2840-rp58446; 09 Aug 1999 11:09:47 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay3.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 11DnIe-0000Nl-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:09:04 +0100
Received: from leo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.16]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567C8.003D3338; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:08:28 +0100
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:08:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@leo.software.plasmon
To: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
cc: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] why not use smartlist? (was: Test (sorry guys))
In-Reply-To: <F77941E1D7F15A36802567C6002C9C81.002C9CE4802567C6@plasmon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990809110714.5101B-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=154.32.109.6

On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Edward Betts wrote:

>Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> wrote:
>> Chiark's mailer doesn't like me :-(
>>
>> Is this getting through to you, Steve?
>
>It is on the list, as is this.
>
>My questions are, what is wrong with smartlist?
  
I don't know. Ian has mailman installed on chiark, so that's what we're
using.

>Why require people to be subscribed to post? (spam?)

Exactly that, yes. It's not a major problem, though - I can add people to
an extras list when I get postings from new addresses. 

>Why prefix each subject with [Debian-UK] we know the mailing list based
>on the to address?

It's there by default; I can turn it off if people prefer...

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software         smcintyr@allstor-sw.co.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/comp/>My PC page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Aug 09 12:16:59 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay4.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.111.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11DnQJ-0002C7-00 (Debian); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:16:59 +0100
Received: from relay4.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.111.6])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2866-rp59678; 09 Aug 1999 11:16:59 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay4.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 11DnOP-00032J-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:15:02 +0100
Received: from virgo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.42]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567C8.003DC137; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:14:31 +0100
Received: from mail by virgo.software.plasmon with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11DnLM-000M0B-00 (FreeBSD); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:11:52 +0100
Received: from matthew by aardvark.software.plasmon with local-smtp (Exim 3.02 #1)
	id 11DnO8-0000EN-00 (Debian); Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:14:44 +0100
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:14:44 +0100 (BST)
From: Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org>
X-Sender: matthew@aardvark.software.plasmon
To: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
cc: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>, debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] why not use smartlist? (was: Test (sorry guys))
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990809110714.5101B-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990809121307.863A-100000@aardvark.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Sender: Matthew Vernon <mvernon@allstor-sw.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=154.32.111.6

On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Edward Betts wrote:
> 
> >Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Chiark's mailer doesn't like me :-(
> >>
> >> Is this getting through to you, Steve?
> >
> >It is on the list, as is this.
> >
> >Why prefix each subject with [Debian-UK] we know the mailing list based
> >on the to address?
> 
> It's there by default; I can turn it off if people prefer...

It's quite helpful when scanning inbox - I can see what list the message
is on from the message listing

And no, I can't be bothered to install procmail on a work machine

;)

Matthew





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Aug 10 18:40:38 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mail.enterprise.net [194.72.192.18] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11EFt7-0003dT-00 (Debian); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:40:37 +0100
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.18])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id4675-rp2101; 10 Aug 1999 17:40:37 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (root@max05-047.enterprise.net [194.72.197.47])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23830
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:40:28 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (olly@localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by linda.lfix.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA29239
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:40:20 +0100
Message-Id: <199908101740.SAA29239@linda.lfix.co.uk>
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
X-URL: http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
X-face: "xUFVDj+ZJtL_IbURmI}!~xAyPC"Mrk=MkAm&tPQnNq(FWxv49R}\>0oI8VM?O2VY+N7@F-
 KMLl*!h}B)u@TW|B}6<X<J|}QsVlTi:RA:O7Abc(@D2Y/"J\S,b1!<&<B/J}b.Ii9@B]H6V!+#sE0Q
 _+=`K$5TI|4I0-=Cp%pt~L#QYydO'iBXR~\tT?uftep9n9AF`@SzTwsw6uqJ}pL,h(cZi}T#PB"#!k
 p^e=Z.K~fuw$l?]lUV)?R]U}l;f*~Ol)#fpKR)Yt}XOr6BI\_Jjr0!@GMnpCTnTym4f;c{;Ms=0{`D
 Lq9MO6{wj%s-*N"G,g
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:40:20 +0100
From: "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 
Subject: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999

Does anyone know if there is a chance for Debian to get a presence at this
exhibition?

See http://www.itevents.co.uk/exhibitions/Linux/default.htm

-- 
      Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
                 ========================================
Oliver Elphick                                Oliver.Elphick@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
               PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
                 ========================================
     "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall
      ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you."     
                                      John 15:7 






From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Aug 10 23:26:30 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mail.enterprise.net [194.72.192.18] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11EKLl-00083t-00 (Debian); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:26:29 +0100
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.18])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id6204-rp3752; 10 Aug 1999 22:26:29 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (root@max04-048.enterprise.net [194.72.196.168])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15620
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:26:27 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (olly@localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by linda.lfix.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06128
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:26:13 +0100
Message-Id: <199908102226.XAA06128@linda.lfix.co.uk>
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999 
In-Reply-To: Message from Jules Bean <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk> 
   of "Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:24 BST." <Pine.SOL.3.95q.990810222806.29333A-100000@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk> 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:26:13 +0100
From: "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

Jules Bean wrote:
  >On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:
  >
  >> Does anyone know if there is a chance for Debian to get a presence at this
  >> exhibition?
  >> 
  >> See http://www.itevents.co.uk/exhibitions/Linux/default.htm
  >
  >I think we better had - it claims 'everyone who's anyone in OS software
  >will be there' - my phrasing, but that's the general idea.
  >
  >Anyone got the time to organise this?  I can probably attend and help, but
  >I'm not sure I can organise.

I'm no detailed organiser, but here are some things that will obviously
need doing:

1. persuade them to give us a booth

Here's a draft message asking for free space.  The contact given on the
web page is jonathan.heastie@itevents.co.uk.
================================  draft  =================================
We are maintainers and users of Debian GNU/Linux in the UK; we have come
across the page about Linux Expo 99 at http://www.itevents.co.uk/exhibitions
and would very much like to be able to present Debian at Olympia.  

In case you do not know about Debian, we should say that it is one of the
major Linux distributions and is probably second only to Red Hat in
popularity.  Its chief distinguishing characteristic for an ordinary
user or administrator is the superior package management system which
makes upgrading packages a nearly trouble free operation.  We feel that,
though Red Hat may have the slickest initial installation, we are
superior for the long term user.

Among distributions, Debian is distinguished by being a purely voluntary
effort.  It is maintained by about 500 developers spread across the world
and has machines, such as www.debian.org, which are donated by companies
sympathetic to our efforts.  Being purely voluntary, Debian has almost no
funds of its own; we should therefore like to ask if your organisation
can allow us free space at the exhibition, since we have no funds to
finance a booth at normal rates and yet are confident that Debian's
presence at the exhibition would considerably enhance the exhibition's
usefulness to visitors.
================================  end  =================================

2. identify helpers;

we will need to set up the previous afternoon and evening, staff a booth
continuously for the 2 days and take down at the end of the second day.
We will need at least 3 people all the time while the show is open, and
to set up and take down.


3. plan what we will be showing

ideas?


4. consequent resource needs:

computer(s), screens, network, etc.
car/van to transport it all


5. publicity material

leaflets, free/cheap CDs, T-shirts? Presumably those helping should also
advertise their own services.


6. money

Even if we manage to get a free booth, we may still have to pay for
power connection, banners, publicity and so on.



What have I missed?

-- 
      Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
                 ========================================
Oliver Elphick                                Oliver.Elphick@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
               PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
                 ========================================
     "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall
      ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you."     
                                      John 15:7 






From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Aug 10 22:29:34 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77] (exim)
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11EJSg-0007FD-00 (Debian); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:34 +0100
Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.77]) ident exim
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.3)
          with esmtp id sauce-id5890-rp52152; 10 Aug 1999 21:29:34 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from jmlb2 (helo=localhost)
	by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 3.03 #1)
	id 11EJSW-0007kc-00; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:24 +0100
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:24 +0100 (BST)
From: Jules Bean <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
X-Sender: jmlb2@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk
To: Oliver Elphick <olly@lfix.co.uk>
cc: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999
In-Reply-To: <199908101740.SAA29239@linda.lfix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.990810222806.29333A-100000@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is a chance for Debian to get a presence at this
> exhibition?
> 
> See http://www.itevents.co.uk/exhibitions/Linux/default.htm

I think we better had - it claims 'everyone who's anyone in OS software
will be there' - my phrasing, but that's the general idea.

Anyone got the time to organise this?  I can probably attend and help, but
I'm not sure I can organise.

Jules

/----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------\
|  Jelibean aka  | jules@jellybean.co.uk         |  6 Evelyn Rd	       |
|  Jules aka     | jules@debian.org              |  Richmond, Surrey   |
|  Julian Bean   | jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk        |  TW9 2TF *UK*       |
+----------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+
|  War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left.             |
|  When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy.          |
\----------------------------------------------------------------------/





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Aug 12 18:12:08 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from mail.enterprise.net [194.72.192.18] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11EyOd-0002Bw-00 (Debian); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:12:07 +0100
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.18])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1424-rp4920; 12 Aug 1999 17:12:07 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (root@max05-029.enterprise.net [194.72.197.29])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17468
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:12:00 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Received: from linda.lfix.co.uk (olly@localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by linda.lfix.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA26575
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:11:59 +0100
Message-Id: <199908121711.SAA26575@linda.lfix.co.uk>
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) 
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999 (fwd)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:11:59 +0100
From: "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Mail Refused. See http://www.imrss.org/error.html 

------- Forwarded Message

Date:    Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:16:58 +0100
From:    David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk>
To:      Oliver Elphick <olly@lfix.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999

Oliver,

I sent a message to you and the DebianUK list volunteering to help with
expo. But the list is currently rejecting my messages due to a problem
with my sender header.

Please would you forward the message onto the list for me.

Thanks

Dave

The original text I send was:

Hi,

I think we would be able to help with some parts of this (although we
are not registered developers we do use Debian exclusively - well some
windows for testing as well).

We have 3 people so I guess we could take it in turns and so provide 1
person on a booth for the whole time. We could also help with
setup/clear up. Some hardware might be possible if it is stuff we can
carry as I am not that keen on driving in.

We don't have much time before then with two clients going live with
systems still being written so could not volunteer to do m,uch
organisation before hand.

How about if we also had a debian meet at the end of the first day?

Dave



- -- 
David Warnock
Sundayta Ltd


------- End of Forwarded Message


-- 
      Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
                 ========================================
Oliver Elphick                                Oliver.Elphick@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
               PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
                 ========================================
     "And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men
      ought always to pray, and not to faint."       
                                             Luke 18:1 






From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Aug 12 23:47:51 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11F3dW-0006mo-00 (Debian); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:47:50 +0100
Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id3000-rp1753; 12 Aug 1999 22:47:50 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11F3dP-0005gI-0C
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:47:43 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11F3UN-0005g3-00; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:38:23 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.03 #1(Debian))
	id 11F3bQ-0000oE-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:45:40 +0100
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:45:40 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999
Message-ID: <19990812234540.A3081@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk> <199908102226.XAA06128@linda.lfix.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <199908102226.XAA06128@linda.lfix.co.uk>; from Oliver Elphick on Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 11:26:13PM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oliver Elphick <olly@lfix.co.uk> wrote:
> 2. identify helpers;
>=20
> we will need to set up the previous afternoon and evening, staff a booth
> continuously for the 2 days and take down at the end of the second day.
> We will need at least 3 people all the time while the show is open, and
> to set up and take down.

If I get the grades I will probably be at University by that time. If not,
I if I have some free time, I would be very willing to volunteer my help.

$ cal 10 1999
    October 1999
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                1  2
 3  4  5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
$

> 4. consequent resource needs:
>=20
> computer(s), screens, network, etc.
> car/van to transport it all

I have a car (small one though), a computer (P166), 6 screens (1 x 17" vga,=
=20
4 * poor 14" vga, 1 x MDA) and networking (10BaseT Hub and cables).

Obviously, I can not fit all of my avaliable kit in my car at once.

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN7NOk8Tul33Z9OdBAQEmhwP8D+GGFM1kLs6YkaQvhcyK59bBM0EYjQZH
993qV2mLj37wNCNnoy/EkZ4WhvPhyfUQGQfySXsssBg6UXcTOTsk7OAb6d5nbmWO
LOw8MUuEsevgT7YqqPsEDcbbqcDask4vjaBWE2mqPyPbqgQXISl8XstKVwkASwYi
xLoMAGFvt9E=
=fC+q
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z--



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Aug 13 09:33:22 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.109.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11FCmA-0004U2-00 (Debian); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:33:22 +0100
Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.109.6])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1285-rp62358; 13 Aug 1999 08:33:22 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay3.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 11FCm8-0006tk-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:33:20 +0100
Received: from virgo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.42]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567CC.002EF70E; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:32:59 +0100
Received: from mail by virgo.software.plasmon with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11FCjQ-000O1q-00 (FreeBSD); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:30:32 +0100
Received: from matthew by aardvark.software.plasmon with local-smtp (Exim 3.03 #1)
	id 11FCm6-0000Vw-00 (Debian); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:33:18 +0100
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:33:18 +0100 (BST)
From: Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org>
X-Sender: matthew@aardvark.software.plasmon
cc: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999
In-Reply-To: <199908121711.SAA26575@linda.lfix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990813093236.447I-100000@aardvark.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Sender: Matthew Vernon <mvernon@allstor-sw.co.uk>
X-RBL-Warning: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=154.32.109.6

Hi,

	Well I should be able to go for some time, transport and crash
space allowing... I'm not about to organisea a booth tho.

Matthew




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Fri Aug 13 14:12:45 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.109.6] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11FH8X-0008LU-00 (Debian); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:12:45 +0100
Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.109.6])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2070-rp35488; 13 Aug 1999 13:12:45 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.plasmon.co.uk ([193.115.5.217])
	by relay3.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 11FH8S-0000FL-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:12:41 +0100
Received: from leo.software.plasmon ([193.115.4.16]) by mail.plasmon.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4  (830.2 3-23-1999)) with SMTP id 802567CC.00488D8B; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:12:28 +0100
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:12:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@leo.software.plasmon
To: UK Debian list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] Linux Expo'99 - Olympia 6th - 7th October 1999
In-Reply-To: <EA53F2A5A5EBCD73802567CC002F22E2.002F2388802567CC@plasmon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990813131124.17190G-100000@leo.software.plasmon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-RBL-Warning: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=154.32.109.6

On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Matthew Vernon wrote:

>        Well I should be able to go for some time, transport and crash
>space allowing... I'm not about to organisea a booth tho.

Ditto. I can do transport from Cambridge and bring along a machine or two
also.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software         smcintyr@allstor-sw.co.uk
<a href=http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/comp/>My PC page</a>
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  





From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Aug 14 09:18:15 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11FZ14-0005Cg-00 (Debian); Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:18:14 +0100
Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id974-rp1741; 14 Aug 1999 08:18:14 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
	id 11FZ0z-00033Q-0K
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:18:10 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11FPTt-0006aQ-00; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:07:21 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.03 #1(Debian))
	id 11FPdk-0000Pj-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:17:32 +0100
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:17:32 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <19990813231732.C1412@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [Debian-uk] 21 August Meet

--bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So where? When? I need to book coach tickets, who is going?

Any time after 10am is probably good for me. Close to Victoria coach
station might help, but with the wonders of the London underground it
probably does not matter where we meet.

--=20
I consume, therefore I am

--bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3ia

iQCVAwUBN7SZe8Tul33Z9OdBAQFq2wP9HGMvMurXsw+iKhrHOTPo/6fA+v9tLKnF
mLTNZ4nmJq2oNgVuQ1aJeN3kS/CNvcuRwFpQel/rEzF2LTgIAfuwRe+bo6k8xzKV
hOpmMgeH7WFOd5cXc+syDVXXpFrXC+RIHU/vzk8/A09QaL2fN5EyeG90yYwYmaAj
gDtR1bK6MXg=
=ZmCO
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI--




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Aug 14 13:28:43 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11FcvT-0007bJ-00 (Debian); Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:28:43 +0100
Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1407-rp3177; 14 Aug 1999 12:28:43 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from sadcompscis.demon.co.uk ([158.152.37.34] helo=lump.mossbank.org.uk)
	by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11FcvN-000OMo-0A
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:28:38 +0000
Received: from hammer.mossbank.org.uk [10.13.0.5] (mail)
	by lump.mossbank.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11Fcup-00019V-00; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:28:03 +0100
Received: from steve by hammer.mossbank.org.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11Fcup-0006Ld-00; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:28:03 +0100
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:28:03 +0100 (BST)
From: Steve McIntyre <stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
X-Sender: steve@hammer.mossbank.org.uk
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] 21 August Meet
In-Reply-To: <19990813231732.C1412@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990814132652.332F-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Edward Betts wrote:

>So where? When? I need to book coach tickets, who is going?
>
>Any time after 10am is probably good for me. Close to Victoria coach
>station might help, but with the wonders of the London underground it
>probably does not matter where we meet.

I suggested a central pub; as I don't know London very well it would help
if somebody that does could suggest a specific one... Anyone?

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                   stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk
I sent ten dollars to death.net and all I got was... well, nothing.
"Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,                 +------------------
"Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."  |Finger for PGP key




From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Aug 14 16:04:04 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11FfLo-0000aB-00 (Debian); Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:04:04 +0100
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id1718-rp4419; 14 Aug 1999 15:04:04 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from arise.demon.co.uk ([158.152.178.61])
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11FfLl-00094p-0B
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:04:02 +0000
Received: from monolith.sinshack ([192.168.254.5] ident=mail)
	by arise.sinshack with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1 (Debian))
	id 11Ff9E-0003Bo-00
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:51:04 +0100
Received: from steve by monolith.sinshack with local (Exim 3.02 #1 (Debian))
	id 11FfAT-0003ZG-00
	for <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:52:21 +0100
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:52:21 +0100
From: Steve Haslam <steve@arise.demon.co.uk>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] 21 August Meet
Message-ID: <19990814155221.A13554@demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <19990813231732.C1412@hairnet.demon.co.uk> <Pine.LNX.3.95.990814132652.332F-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990814132652.332F-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk>; from Steve McIntyre on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 01:28:03PM +0100
X-RSA-Key: 1024R/6494661D: A4 5D 30 2C EE CB 41 24  A7 9E DF E3 74 E8 2E 5B
X-DSA-Key: 1024D/AF99D43A: 8410 63C6 5821 1A2E BB26  E98F 8F16 B533 AF99 D43A

On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 01:28:03PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Edward Betts wrote:
> 
> >So where? When? I need to book coach tickets, who is going?
> >
> >Any time after 10am is probably good for me. Close to Victoria coach
> >station might help, but with the wonders of the London underground it
> >probably does not matter where we meet.
> 
> I suggested a central pub; as I don't know London very well it would help
> if somebody that does could suggest a specific one... Anyone?

How big does it need to be? For example, there's the Shakespeare's
Head at the top of Carnaby Street, which is certainly central (and
only coincidentally near work for me :}) which usually isn't too
crowded due to being a pub and not a trendy "bar". (OK, OK, I'm
old-fashioned...)

I'd be glad to hear more suggestions of course- perhpas something just 
next to a Tube station would be a better idea? But I don't know London 
like the back of my hand myself, so...

SRH
-- 
Steve Haslam      http://www.arise.demon.co.uk/      steve@arise.demon.co.uk
Debian GNU/Linux Maintainer                               araqnid@debian.org
almost called it today, turned to face the void, numb with the suffering
and the question- "Why am I?"                                  [queensr˙che]



From owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sat Aug 14 22:35:28 1999
Return-path: <owner-mailman@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Envelope-to: debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39] 
	by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1)
	id 11FlSZ-0004d2-00 (Debian); Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:35:27 +0100
Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39])
	  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.3.5)
          with esmtp id sauce-id2607-rp2686; 14 Aug 1999 21:35:27 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from hairnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.142.74] helo=smack.hairnet)
	by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1)
	id 11FlSW-0006Y2-0B
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:35:25 +0000
Received: from portaloo.hairnet [192.168.0.4] (mail)
	by smack.hairnet with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
	id 11FlQt-0007jQ-00; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:33:43 +0100
Received: from edward by portaloo.hairnet with local (Exim 3.03 #1(Debian))
	id 11FlcK-0002As-00
	for debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:45:32 +0100
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:45:32 +0100
From: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Debian-uk] 21 August Meet
Message-ID: <19990814224532.A8072@hairnet.demon.co.uk>
Mail-Followup-To: Debian UK list <debian-uk@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <19990813231732.C1412@hairnet.demon.co.uk> <Pine.LNX.3.95.990814132652.332F-100000@hammer.mossbank.org.uk> <19990814155221.A13554@demon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk; micalg=pgp-md5;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i
In-Reply-To: <19990814155221.A13554@demon.co.uk>; from Steve Haslam on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 03:52:21PM +0100
Sender: Edward Betts <edward@hairnet.demon.co.uk>

--qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve Haslam <steve@arise.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> How big does it need to be? For example, there's the Shakespeare's
> Head at the top of Carnaby Street, which is certainly central (and
> only coincidentally near work for me :}) which usually isn't too