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<div> Hi Thorsten,<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>And this will break things that work now.</div></blockquote><div>Sure, I'm not advocating anyone should switch immediately. I just think that alternatives should be explored. I hope one day debian provides an init option in dinstaller.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>There’s a whole GR to support that, not that certain package<br></div><div>maintainers follow that…<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Dou you mean the GR where a decision was made to focus on systemd (for now) and look into alternatives?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'd also like to ask why openrc doesn't ship its own ("native") version of initsscripts (agetty, bootmisc, etc.). It's present in the source but I couldn't find anything in d/rules or in the package that it ships those.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">werdahias</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>5. Feb. 2023, 23:14 von t.glaser@tarent.de:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>On Sun, 5 Feb 2023, matthias.geiger1024@tutanota.de wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div>>I take it (by a wide margin) most of people on this list use sysvinit. My questions:<br></div><blockquote><br></blockquote><div>>- Is there a specific reason you use it over openrc ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>It has existed for a very long time and does not change anything<br></div><div>needlessly. I actually dislike sysvinit, but the alternatives in<br></div><div>Debian are worse. This is mostly for muscle memory (and reliability<br></div><div>over the “modern” one), and keeping things working.<br></div><div><br></div><div>>The way I see it, openrc has some advantages over sysvinit:<br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe, but it’s a new thing, and it’s got problems, such as the<br></div><div>differing init script syntax. They also limit it to /bin/sh…<br></div><div><br></div><div>>It has a dependency based startup, ordering of services<br></div><div><br></div><div>sysvinit+sysv-rc has that as well…<br></div><blockquote>and (imho) a saner init script syntax.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I actually just looked and, let’s just say ugh. Tastes differ.<br></div><div>And this will break things that work now.<br></div><div><br></div><div>>I would like for openrc to be better/more integrated.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sure, work on that, but keep sysvinit working and supported.<br></div><div>There’s a whole GR to support that, not that certain package<br></div><div>maintainers follow that…<br></div><div><br></div><div>bye,<br></div><div>//mirabilos<br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Infrastrukturexperte • tarent solutions GmbH<br></div><div>Am Dickobskreuz 10, D-53121 Bonn • http://www.tarent.de/<br></div><div>Telephon +49 228 54881-393 • Fax: +49 228 54881-235<br></div><div>HRB AG Bonn 5168 • USt-ID (VAT): DE122264941<br></div><div>Geschäftsführer: Dr. Stefan Barth, Kai Ebenrett, Boris Esser, Alexander Steeg<br></div><div><br></div><div> ****************************************************<br></div><div>/⁀\ The UTF-8 Ribbon<br></div><div>╲ ╱ Campaign against Mit dem tarent-Newsletter nichts mehr verpassen:<br></div><div> ╳ HTML eMail! Also, https://www.tarent.de/newsletter<br></div><div>╱ ╲ header encryption!<br></div><div> ****************************************************<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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