Bug#1016561: sysvinit-core: Please recommend systemd-tmpfiles and systemd-tmpfiles

Thorsten Glaser t.glaser at tarent.de
Wed Aug 3 00:20:58 BST 2022


On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, Adam Borowski wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 12:04:29AM +0200, GSR wrote:

> > Otherwise in cases like upgrading lvm2 (see bug #1014565) the full

This is weird, but I looked at how debootstrap resolves dependencies,
and this is indeed a problem. Did anyone look at whether adding the
systemd-standalone-tmpfiles package to the list of dependencies, instead
of relying on the virtual package, helps?

> Sysvinit is often installed in small containers, and I would be wary of
> bloating them by 460KB with gratuitous dependences.

It’d be a Recommends. Power users have been annoyed since squeeze
enabled the installation of Recommends by default and have been
disabling it ever since :|

> > systemd is installed unnecessarily.

My guess is you don’t have systemd pinned away.

$ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd 
Package: systemd
Pin: version *
Pin-Priority: -1

Does it still want to install systemd with this enabled? (If so, apt
bug.) Does it successfully resolve this to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles
instead of exploding and refusing to do anything? (I don’t have a
suitably up-to-date sid system handy.)

Given how Debian currently treats nōn-systemd users I think asking
them to run with such a pinning (and not annoying maintainers so
much that they remove the standalone packages altogether) might be
sensible :/

Meow,
//mirabilos
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