Bug#994275: Reverting breaking changes in debianutils
tito
farmatito at tiscali.it
Sat Sep 25 06:49:29 BST 2021
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 02:22:44 +0000
Clint Adams <clint at debian.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 03:00:59PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > I thought what you wanted was to drop cjwatson-which, either in favour
> > of no which in Debian at all, or the option to install GNU or BSD which.
> >
> > However, you have now suggested that someone could package
> > cjwatson-which in another package. But in that case, what do you see
> > removing cjwatson-which from debianutils as achieving?
>
> I am merely pointing out that the current situation allows for
> an infinite number of people to package an infinite number of
> `which` alternatives, and no one has to get my permission or
> coordinate with me.
>
> Adrian has suggested that cjwatson-which is superior to any
> currently proposed alternatives because of its file size.
> I could not care less which `which` alternatives people want
> to maintain because I have no use for /usr/bin/which.
>
> Picture the happy path: GNU which successfully passes through
> NEW. A dozen people form a team to package FreeBSD which,
> which also makes it through NEW. bookworm is released, and
> debianutils drops cjwatson-which.
>
> * Anyone who wants GNU which can install and use GNU which
> * Anyone who wants FreeBSD which can install and use FreeBSD which
> * `which` is no longer Essential, so people like me who don't want
> /usr/bin/which on their systems can have that too, because
> surely no one competent would choose to have a package depend
> on `which` when a standard POSIX utility can do a better job
> * The people who care not a whit about `which` no longer see that
> annoying deprecation warning being spewed by random scripts
> * All `which` alternatives in Debian will (probably) be maintained
> upstream, and also maintained downstream by people that care
> about `which`
> * debianutils gets closer to achieving its mission, by having
> one fewer irrelevant utility that does not belong
>
> In this scenario, the GNU which enthusiasts are happy, the FreeBSD
> which enthusiasts are happy, I am happy, and presumably Adrian
> is unhappy.
>
> So, then, what is the magic solution that will make all four groups
> happy?
>
busybox's which?
Ciao,
Tito
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