Bug#1001908: manpages-de: manpage of "shutdown" not up-to-date

Helge Kreutzmann debian at helgefjell.de
Fri Dec 24 09:27:23 GMT 2021

Hello Mark,
On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 08:13:56AM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> [Adding CC debian-init-diversity at chiark.greenend.org.uk]

And adding Mario, manpages-l10n upstream maintainer as well.

> Thanks for this.

You are welcome, and thanks for considering.

> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 05:39:20PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > In Debian we have the situation that some man pages are shipped by
> > several packages. This is fine for the english versions, as there the
> > alternatives mechanism takes care of this.
> > 
> > For translated man pages this is not possible (at least currently), so
> > as manpages-l10n we have to decide which upstream to follow. 
> > 
> > Until now we chose System-V over Systemd. However, this bug report
> > showed that this causes confusion and I will ask manpage-l10n upstream
> > to switch Debian to Systemd as well.
> I see that manpage-l10n upstream switching to the default init makes sense for
> the majority.
> > Since all other distributions we support already use the Systemd
> > version, this means the translations we currently have we vanish for
> > Sysv-Init users if nothing else happens. (#3 below)
> > 
> > I can propose three courses of action, in the order of my preference:
> > 
> > 1. Sysv core adopts po4a and includes the translation framework as
> >    well as the translations (see below for the overview). I will
> >    provide you help on this (in January), probably Mario (the upstream
> >    maintainer of manpage-l10n) might give you some help as well. Then
> >    the man pages will keep up to date (see rationale in 2) and more
> >    translators / languages can be easily integrated, if translators
> >    pop up.
> Indeed, to me, this seems the cleanest solution in the long run. Thanks for the
> offer of help.

Yes, this offer stands. I'll can support you in January 2022 on doing
this, meanwhile Mario, who is helped other projects adopting po4a,
might give some advice as well.

Best greetings and a nice holiday season


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