Bullseye release notes / install instructions for alternative inits

[Matthew Vernon]

On 23/07/2021 15:29, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Martin and Matthew,
> 
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:10:48PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>> The best time to perform the switch is after the "Selecting and
>>> installing software" stage [link to 6.3.6.2]; though note that the
>>> default GNOME desktop environment will only work with systemd - so if
>>> you want a desktop environment installed, then deselect GNOME and
>>> select another (Xfce, for example, works well without systemd).
>>
>> GNOME does not work at all? I thought it would be working in Devuan, but
>> maybe I am mistaken.
> 
> Gnome certainly works in Devuan and I thought it did in Debian as well.

gdm3 depends on libpam-systemd; I lazily assumed other bits of GNOME did 
too (but haven't checked); I'd welcome correction on the matter.

>> I also know that KDE Plasma works just fine. No matter whether on X11 or
>> Wayland. Also Pulseaudio works.
>>
>> Which other desktops are known to work? XFCE is for sure, it is the
>> standard desktop in Devuan. Did anyone test any other?
> 
> I have test installed cinnamon, mate, budgie lxqt and lxde during the bullseye
> cycle.

That's useful to know :)

>> The package "libpam-elogind-compat" from Debian experimental repository
>> is no longer necessary? I think I still have it installed on my one
>> Debian Sid installation – all other systems are Devuan by now.
> 
> I will have to check how many outstanding libpam-systemd dependencies exist
> that have not been changed to default-logind | logind. Certainly gdm3 is one. It
> was said that gdm3 requires systemd --user, but I have had reports of it working
> fine with libpam-elogind.

That would be helpful, thanks; if we can ditch libpam-elogind-compat 
from experimental it'd probably be a good thing to do.

Regards,

Matthew