Fwd: Bug#947847: Fwd: Bug#946456: systemd: Provide systemd-sysusers as an independent package

Matthew Vernon matthew at debian.org
Fri Oct 9 09:21:49 BST 2020


Forwarding this here, in case it's of interest.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Bug#947847: Fwd: Bug#946456: systemd: Provide systemd-sysusers 
as an independent package
Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 19:57:04 +0000
Resent-From: Michael Biebl <biebl at debian.org>
Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist at lists.debian.org
Resent-CC: Technical Committee <debian-ctte at lists.debian.org>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 21:53:06 +0200
From: Michael Biebl <biebl at debian.org>
Reply-To: Michael Biebl <biebl at debian.org>, 947847 at bugs.debian.org
To: 947847 <947847 at bugs.debian.org>

Forwarding this to the CTTE, just in case they have some input on this
proposed plan.

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: Bug#946456: systemd: Provide systemd-sysusers as an
independent package
Datum: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 18:21:39 +0200
Von: Michael Biebl <biebl at debian.org>
An: 946456 at bugs.debian.org, Felipe Sateler <fsateler at debian.org>, Ansgar
<ansgar at 43-1.org>, Niels Thykier <niels at thykier.net>

A small update here:
v246 provides a build switch -Dstandalone-binaries=true:
option('standalone-binaries', type : 'boolean', value : 'false',
        description : 'also build standalone versions of supported 

Atm, those supported binaries are systemd-tmpfiles and systemd-sysusers.
Those binaries do not link against libsystemd-shared and have minimal

Fedora decided to ship those binaries in separate binary packages named
systemd-standalone-sysusers and systemd-standalone-tmpfiles, which
conflict with the main systemd package, i.e. the main systemd package
will continue to ship systemd-tmpfiles and systemd-sysusers linking
against libsystemd-shared.

I like this approach and think we should do the same in Debian.
Users, which have the full systemd package installed don't have any
negative side effects, which could result from splitting out
systemd-tmpfiles/systemd-sysusers and libsystemd-shared.

Restricted/non-systemd environments, like containers, can use
systemd-standalone-sysusers and systemd-standalone-tmpfiles with minimal

We could debate whether systemd-standalone-tmpfiles and
systemd-standalone-sysusers should be provided by a single binary
package, but since Fedora has already done this split this way, I would
simply follow here and use the same binary package names.
The relevant Fedora PR is
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/systemd/pull-request/27 fwiw.

Thankfully, -Dstandalone-binaries=true doesn't require a separate, third
build variant (as with the udeb flavour), so build times shouldn't go up.

If there are no objections to this approach I would proceed and
implement it like this:
- Build systemd with -Dstandalone-binaries=true
- Install the standalone binaries in binary packages named
systemd-standalone-sysusers and systemd-standalone-tmpfiles
- Those binaries packages would only ship /bin/systemd-sysusers resp.
/bin/systemd-tmpfiles and have a Conflicts/Replaces: systemd

In case there are no objections to this plan, I would create a MR on salsa.



-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 834 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-init-diversity/attachments/20201009/72f81e8c/attachment-0001.sig>

More information about the Debian-init-diversity mailing list