[chiark.chat] Re: RFH: sysvinit etc. in Debian

Mark Hindley mark at hindley.org.uk
Fri Nov 9 11:08:18 GMT 2018

On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 11:02:45AM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Andreas Messer writes ("Re: [chiark.chat] Re: RFH: sysvinit etc. in Debian"):
> >  The most problematic
> > one: systemd-logind and elogind use cgroups to assign a process to a
> > session. Unfortunately, both of them use a different cgroup structure.
> > ...  But since they use different structure
> > an application linked with libsystemd will never get the proper session
> > when elogind is used and vice versa. Therefore we had to create two
> > different polkit variants. 
> What you say makes sense on its own terms but I feel confused now.
> elogind works on FreeBSD, right ?  Where there are no cgroups.  So how
> are we still depending on cgroups ?
> Also, we have had (several, I think?) test reports saying that this
> elogind package works with Debian sid/buster.  Presumably without
> doing anything to polkit.

I didn't have to make any changes to polkit-1 and it works for me.

My inclination here is to persist with an initscript and disable the Dbus
activation (with /bin/true).

Lorenz, can you verify that works for you?


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