Should libpam-elogind Provide libpam-systemd ?

Ian Jackson ijackson at
Tue Nov 6 16:30:13 GMT 2018

Mark Hindley writes ("Re: Should libpam-elogind Provide libpam-systemd ?"):
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 12:43:48PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I asked this question on debian-devel.  I said I would summarise the
> > responses.  I found that trying to write a summary involved me doing a
> > bit of research, and that not everyone in the thread seemed to agree
> > about everything.  To make a coherent picture I had to make some
> > suppositions, some of which may still be wrong, but I think what I
> > write below is roughly right.
> Thanks from this. I will try to read the thread this afternoon. 

I summarised it here so that you don't have to, but if you want to
disagree with the recommendations I guess you should.

> > Don't provide libpam-systemd.
> From Devuan's perspactive that is a shame. Devuan uses libpam-elogind
> providing libpam-systemd as a way of providing the necessary functionality
> without modifying a host of Debian packages.

Yes, but of course in Debian it is easier to modify a host of Debian


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